Talk:Recovery model

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[edit] NPOV

Weasel words? Straw men? Something seems odd here.

"In the U.S. self-help, family members, advocacy groups, NIHM, the Rehabilitation Services Administration, and many state agencies, however psychiatric rehabilitation continues to be of little interest to university educators of mental health professionals"

"Attempts are being made by some people and organizations to transform the mental health system to a recovery-based one, with expanded choices of recovery-based services and supports."

Larry 08:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I've made a few edits with the aim of improving the NPOV/flow. Both paragraphs are sourced. Are you happy for the NPOV-check tag to be removed? If not could you clarify what you feel is needed, or improve yourself. EverSince 15:38, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'm pretty much reading this as a not terribly subtle jab at "university educators of mental health professionals." This is not a Neutral Point Of View. This appears to be venting of an intraprofessional grudge.

Flow is much improved, though.--Larry 08:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh I see what you mean - I didn't add that paragraph myself and didn't quite pick up on that. I do agree with how it seems. For now I've removed it and left a msg on the editor's talk page in case. The other statement you quoted I did add and is directly sourced by the cite at the end of the paragraph. EverSince 10:27, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

This seems better. I'll remove the NPOV-check tag. --Larry 00:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Just for the record, it looks from the editor who added that point that it was a direct quote from a solid source so I'll just relay the info here. From Anthony, W.A., Cohen, M., Farkas, M, & Gagne, C. (2002). Psychiatric Rehabilitation, 2nd edition. Boston: Boston University Center for Psychiatric Rehabilitation. ISBN 1878512110 “The need for a psychiatric rehabilitation to assist persons with psychiatric disability has been well documented...however psychiatric rehabilitation continues to be of little interest to university educators of mental health professionals [p16]” and from Best Practices in Psychosocial Rehabilitation: “Mental Health professionals often downplay or delay the exploration of employment goals: many mental health professionals still tend to focus on the emotional lives of the people they work with-either because of the academic training or…[p246]” This doesn't mean it isn't a pejorative point, of course, but I assume it merits inclusion as a sourced point of view of some relevance. EverSince 09:27, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey, if it's included as a quote from such-and-such source, that's fine. Not sourcing it is the NPOV issue. Larry 20:02, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article title

I'm wondering whether this article should actually go under the title of "Recovery model". That title does have the problem of not appearing specific to mental health/psych, and e.g. might find a recovery model of reactions in chemistry or whatever, but Googling does suggest this is a phrase with a particular usage in mental health. "Psychosocial recovery" is perhaps used in a slightly different sense (and a narrower one in the scientific literature - the opposite of psychosocial disability) and does bring up a different kind of page in Google. So I'm suggesting changing this article to the term "Recovery model" unless any alternative suggestions. EverSince 11:00, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

I would second that - I think it's a more commonly known term. --69.177.186.222 02:15, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article development

Does anyone have any suggestions on how the article needs to develop, any problems with it currently? I'm thinking of requesting a review of it shortly. EverSince 12:42, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

In New Zealand, Recovery is not considered to be a model, but rather an approach or philosophy (and very recently a requirement to include in service delivery) which is valid in the lives of people (like me) who are taking responsibilty for their own recovery. Personally I like to think of Recovery in the same way that I understand 'recovery from a broken leg'. I am not confident on links on Wikipedia yet (in training!), but I would like to quote from 'Our lives in 2014 - a recovery vision from people with experience of mental illness', published in June 2004 with the assistance of the Mental Health Commission in New Zealand:

" Recovery happens when we regain personal power and a valued place in our communities. Sometimes we need services to support us to get there" (Page 15).

A review of this page in my opinion (and I might be able to contribute), needs to incorporate this approach or philosophy, and its inclusion in service delivery. Rockyar88 (talk) 21:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)