Talk:Rebecca Helferich Clarke

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Contents 1 Score at University library 2 POV 3 Works in print 4 FA 5 Copyediting

[edit] Score at University library

Since my university library (the University of Oklahoma) has a score for Morpheus, I can only assume it's been published. A search of the library's database shows the publisher as Oxford University Press, 2002. I have edited the article accordingly. This is a great piece by the way, for those who haven't heard it. -- Bobhobbit 05:50, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] POV

This article demonstrates a quiet, steady POV. It seems to presume that it knows what was going on inside Clarke's head without quoting her for reference, suggests that she was only interesting when she was composing music, and ignores her family life (which was clearly important to her) to such an extent that one cannot discover when her husband died (answer: 1967).

A strong claim such as "Clarke's views on the social role of women were incompatible with any ambition to compose music in the larger forms" needs references, not to mention clarification. +sj + 06:09, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Where is the evidence that her view of sex roles stopped her composing? There are hundreds of possible reasons? Without references, the assigning of this as the reason without reference seems to be polemical. Avalon 21:46, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

There are several papers on the Rebecca Clarke Society page that substantiate this, if you look at the refs; I guess I didn't footnote that particular statement, but I'll try to dig it up. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:05, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Works in print

As many works have gone out of print and are now coming back in, it makes sense to list their [re]performance dates too. Also, claims such as "the Society has pushed forward recording and scholarship of her work, including several world premiere performances and recordings of unpublished material as well as numerous journal publications" need to be heavily referenced. +sj + 06:09, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] FA

I was annoyed that this had become featured without reaching consensus, or responding to objections such as those noted above, and was about to list it on WP:FARC, but I respect mindspillage a great deal, and spent half an hour browsing other Clarke resources online. There's some *great* material out there! No reason that this article shouldn't be brilliant and detailed. A complete discography, more information about her family and Foundation, etc. are all available... +sj +

Addressed partially on the FAC page—I wouldn't have featured it yet myself without consensus, but it wasn't my call—and still chipping away at the objections. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 19:03, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

I was annoyed, but it looks great now. Thanks for all your hard work. I separated her life into early and later life, to clarify the break between her bouts of musical productivity and her married life. It might also be helpful to describe more of her touring and performance work in the 'life' section, since it isn't until one gets down to the Music section that one discovers her prolific output during her performing years. Also changed a bunch of wording; if you were partial to the previous flow of the article, check the latest diff. +sj + 18:48, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Copyediting

It was a little embarrassing to see a featured article where the subject was referred to about half the time as "Clark" and the other half as "Clarke". I'm going to go fix this, but it seems to me that those who nominate/select/etc. FA's ought to maybe take a quick run-through of proofreading before it goes up. MCB 06:05, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

It was properly proofread when it was featured, and, indeed, until a few hours ago; someone introduced these as a test edit or vandalism, and whoever reverted didn't go back far enough. The drawbacks of attracting attention on the front page. :-/ Mindspillage (spill yours?) 06:15, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Aha. My usual rule is "never ascribe to vandalism what can adequately explained by negligence", but I guess in this case it's the opposite! Thanks. MCB 06:19, 27 August 2005 (UTC)