Talk:Realm of New Zealand
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[edit] Requirement of cites; proper context of the term "Realm"
Hi
I've made edits which I will explain here:
- While I'm not doubting the term Realm of NZ is a proper legal term it would be nice to have written authority backing up the context in which it is presented here (i.e. explaining it as some sort of unified collection of territories under a single GG). I thought it was just a legal term since NZ probably is in favour of emphasising the free association bit rather than the the whole 'colonial domination' thing
- Because of the above the summary information has been removed. Unlike the Australian states or the British Overseas Territories they are not seen to be significant in terms of 'national sovereignty' (not the best way to put it)--again the issue here is that I don;t think the RoNZ was meant to be some sort of super-entity. Same argument for the para. "The Realm itself is a collection of former British colonies"--NZ came first then the Realm and not the other way around. That paragraph's inclusion might give the impression that the Realm is the overrising factor in NZ sovereignty.
- This is without prejusice to the diplomatic etc usages of the term, which I guess is the main reason for the existence of this article.
202.89.157.232 06:33, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dominion of New Zealand Royal Proclamation 1907 was never revoked
The 1983 Royal Letters Patent concerning the office of the Governor-General of the Realm of New Zealand do not legally (i.e., in law) change the long form full name of the country. The Royal Proclamation of September 10, 1907 stating that "the Colony of New Zealand shall be known as the Dominion of New Zealand" on and after Sept 26, 1907 has never been formally revoked (i.e., it is still in force). The long form full name is stil today the Dominion of New Zealand and it Dependences. The 1917 Royal Letters Patent refering to the office of the Governor-General of the Dominion of New Zealand were revoked in 1983, and replaced. However, the long form full name of the Dominion of New Zealand was formally (i.e., legally) bestowed by the Royal Proclamation of 1907 (not in the Royal Letters Patent of 1917).
Additionally, the Royal Styles and Titles Act 1953 does not abolish the rank of Dominion Status. The term Realm (i.e., Realm within the Commonwealth) was a comprimise term of respect, and was not an instrument of statutory name change.
70.30.193.143 18:53, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- See my comment on this at Talk:Dominion of New Zealand --Lholden 21:33, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Cite
The ref says "The Strange Death of Dominion Status" but the link goes to "The Strange Death Of The Realm Of New Zealand: The Implications Of A New Zealand Republic For The Cook Islands And Niue" they appear to be different articles. Brian | (Talk) 03:30, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
