Talk:Reagan administration convictions

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Okay, this list originated with one I found online here, but Googling around, I can't find any evidence of the existence of a Catalina Villaponda as a former US Treasurer, or as anything else, for that matter. She's also not listed on Reagan's Wiki bio or here. Can anyone help here?

Okay, another problem- Michael Deaver is not listed as ever having been a White House Chief of Staff. - Eric 04:45, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

This page should be moved back to Ronald Reagan staff convictions. Subpages aren't used for articles anymore. Gazpacho 08:22, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Intro paragraph

Okay, I really don't like this new intro paragraph:

The "Daily Kos", a left-wing blog, has compiled a list of President Ronald Reagan's staffmembers, appointees and associates that were convicted in U.S. Courts of illegal actions that took place after they left government.

Although it is certainly true that a posting on the "The Daily Kos" was one of my original sources for starting this article, I have been working to find as many other sources as possible to corroborate this information, I have corrected several errors found in the original blog posting, and, as "The Daily Kos" is not taking responsiblity for the maintenance of this article, I don't think the intro paragraph should mention the Daily Kos, as though this were only a copy of an officially maintained list. This list will need to undergo it's own independent Wiki-evolution. For example, I was planning on alphabetizing the entries.

I admit that I am in error for not yet adding a "Sources" section that lists this original source. I was putting more effort into corroborating this list with other sources (critical of course, to ensure NPOV), and writing biography articles for those listed that did not yet have an article. For this omission, I apologize. This is sometimes the risk (error) in posting a new article too soon.

- Eric 09:14, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Don't be embarrassed by Daily Kos--it's an important blog that is very widely read and quoted all the time. Since in fact that was the source then it certainly should be cited. Note that Wiki does NOT allow people to post original research here: you are only allowed to post material that has been verified in books and standard sources. KOS unfortunately did not tell whether or not the people it listed were in fact Reagan appointees. Most were not and therefore that is an oversight that needs correction. When poeple get their convictions overturned because of an unfair trial, that also should be revealed to Wiki readers. Rjensen 09:21, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
I was suspicious of the Daily Kos list from the beginning, but felt it was a good working start. So far, it looks like most of the information was correct, aside from a few unverifiable people, and a few overturned convictions or dropped charges, which should not be listed in a summary of convictions, of course, and have been removed.
This has been educational for me, as I had no idea that some of these positions, such as the Chief of the CIA's Central American Task Force are (or were, at least) indeed Presidential appointments. -Eric 09:34, 6 January 2006 (UTC)


By the way, the story about Catalina Vasquez Villapando appeared many years ago on a white supremacist website: http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:YD4Do35QPwcJ:www.amren.com/944issue/944issue.html+Catalina+Villapando&hl=en&client=firefox-a

It shows that KOS is in pretty bad company when it uses sources like that. (The woman was a Hispanic and the White Supremacists were throwing mud at Hispanics, whether true or false... no news agency reported it.) Rjensen 09:30, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: Villapando

It's a simple spelling error; you have, and American Renaissance had, the spelling Villapando, the correct spelling is Villalpando, which has a Wikipedia page already.

JamesF1382 04:05, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalina_Vasquez_Villalpando Catalina Vasquez Villalpando From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search

Catalina Vasquez Villalpando was the 39th Treasurer of the United States from November 20, 1989 to January 20, 1993 under President George H.W. Bush.

Ms. Villalpando has the distinction of being the only Treasurer ever sent to prison, for obstruction of justice. She received a four-month prison sentence, probation, a fine, and community service for conspiring to withhold information from the federal government and the United States Senate. She pleaded guilty to obstruction and tax evasion and assisted the government in its further investigation of corruption related to her case in return for the light sentence; originally, she had faced 15 years in prison and $750,000 in fines.

Villalpando admitted, as part of her plea, that she received substantial benefits as part of a severance deal with a former employer, Communications International Inc., a company from Georgia for which she was a high-ranking executive. It is illegal for an employee of the government to receive material benefits from private companies or outfits.

Ms. Villalpando's signature can be seen on all United States currency issued during her tenure as Treasurer.

[edit] Carl Channel?

Help! Who's this Carl R. Channel guy, other than the head of the National Endowment for the Preservation of Liberty (NEPL), a financial conduit to launder secret payments to the Nicaraguan contras? If he indeed worked for the Office of Public Diplomacy for Latin America and the Caribbean (a State Dept. office)[1], then he was, indeed, a federal employee.

A Google search for: "Carl Channel" "Office of Public Diplomacy" returns three articles that mention both agences, but make no mention of Channel having worked at the OPD. I'm assuming that someone got mixed up, so I'm removing him from the list.

Anyone know more?

-Eric 11:35, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] no original research allowed in Wiki

Either this article is based on the Daily Kos, which is a well known left wing blog with a very strong POV or as Eric Shalov suggests, it is based on original research. The latter is NOT ALLOWED in Wiki. Please delete all original research or else the whole article falls. Rjensen 22:17, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anne McGill Gorsuch Burford

Am I remembering incorrectly, or was Reagan's head of EPA, Anne McGill Gorsuch Burford, also convicted of obstruction of justice? And, didn't Bob Burford have to resign as head of the Bureau of Land Management due to corruption in the agency?Edarrell 05:57, 9 July 2007 (UTC)