Talk:Razor
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We need an entry on Double-Edged safety razors ("DE") which many people (including myself) use on a daily basis.
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[edit] Durability
How long does a normal razor blade last? Brutulf 15:18, Jan 24, 2005 (UTC)
"The electric razor requires no soap or shaving cream."
Shaving cream is optional, I don't even use it.
[edit] Inconsistency
There seems to be an inconsistency between the "Safety razor" section and the safety razor from Gilette in the "Disposable razor" section. 71.250.9.119 14:34, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
I just did some cleanup to that section. 24.99.38.36 04:46, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
I agree, there is almost no info about safety razors, which is quite sad. They should be seperated out from disposable razors since they are not even the same creature and have been in use from about 1900 to the mid 1970's. They deserve their own section.
[edit] Suicide Razor Blades?
Does anybody know what these archetypical disposable suicide razor blades are actually used for (other than teens comitting suicide in movies)?
They seem to be particularily well-known, but I've never seen them in real-life and have no idea what brand of razor they are actually used for. — Ashmodai (talk · contribs) 06:40, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
They're blades for a DE (Double-edged) safety razor. You may recognize it as the type of safety razor your father or grandfather used, as these were common through the early 70s. There is a growing market of shavers who still use this method (myself included) because it's (in my opinion) superior in shave-quality to it's many-bladed cartridge counterparts. Also, the blades are incredibly cheap, as low as $0.10 each as opposed to $3.50 for a single Gillette Fusion cartridge. -Swakeman 22:27, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Women's Razors
So what's so special about women's razors? Is it just a misnomer for body razors, or are they really somehow specially adapted to the "unique" features of the female physique (whatever that would be in this case)?
Is it just an attempt at selling razors to women as "more womanly" or are they actually not appropriate for men other than by branding alone?
I've been wondering, because that would mean a man would have to get a "women's razor" in order to shave areas other than the face -- and a woman would have to get a "men's razor" to get rid of unwanted facial hair -- which is pretty absurd.
I'm only wondering because "women's razors" are usually marketed as something to shave legs with, which may simply be an attempt at making it seem more appropriate to buy them for women (shaved legs being "womanly") than "men's razors", which would imply they have a ("unwomanly") need for facial shaving (especially so since disposable razors seem to come mostly from the US in a type when gender stereotypes were very common); thus avoiding having to admit that either may be used for both by both sexes. — Ashmodai (talk · contribs) 06:40, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
- Granted this is quite a bit after the fact... Hokay. Women's razors have traditionally just been colored differently from men's razors, and in fact even now men's and women's razor blades are generally interchangeable. I think that when there is a difference (and functionally, there isn't always), it mostly comes down to handle shape -- women's razors either have longer handles for better reach or paddle-shaped handles so they can be held with a lengthwise grip. There's occasionally a difference in the composition of the lubrication strip on high-end razors, but with the obvious exception of the Schick Intuition, most blades are compatible with either handle. (That and women's razors probably tend to have a shorter life cycle, mainly because the usage patterns are vastly different.) Haikupoet 04:52, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Infinite Razors?
The section entitled infinite razors seems odd. How could a razor realistically have infinite blades? Arms race? Can someone do some research on this? Sabishii Kouen 19:01, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I just took it out. It's bogus information pointing to someone's LiveJournal(as a reference) that some trekkie thought was cool. 204.60.149.80 13:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
- Hey, leave off with the "trekkie" insults! Fans hate that. We're trekkers. Trekphiler 06:38, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
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- Ugh...and people wonder why I never admit to liking Star Trek. Get a grip, dude. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.167.136.139 (talk) 04:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
The information isn't really bogus, after you go to his journal he links the Economist which describes what he's talking about. From a mathematical point of view it is shown that the progression of razor blades is approaching infinity along a hyperbolic curve. This is a trivial fact though.
If that's the case, then link directly to the information, not a middle man blog about it.
- Because sources that do not require payment to read the article are preferred. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 14:40, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Straight Razors
The current content about straight razors is simply wrong. "The safety razor was developed in the mid-1800s. Early razor blades needed continuous sharpening, soon becoming worn out, making them expensive. " Straight razors will last two lifetimes if properly looked after. Many are returning to shaving with a straight because of the money saved and the quality of the shave. The reason people left straight razor shaving was because it is typically slower to shave with a straight and one also has to maintain a proper edge. The sharpening removes ver little material and is only needed about once a year. The stropping is something that is performed before and after each shave and is one of the factors that make straight razor shaving more time consuming.
I'll edit the page to reflect this and cite links to contemporary straight razor information if no one posts a comment in the discussion page to challenge this in the next few days.
- Uh, isn't that paragraph about safety razors, not straight razors? I think that early safety razors had the issues described, which were eventually worked out. -- timc talk 04:37, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] A cut too far?
Can somebody confirm that 1901 date? I've seen 1909. Trekphiler 06:39, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Maintenance
An article about Razor Gator [1] was deleted, but in general, would it be a bad idea to add a section to the article about maintaining a razor using products such as Razor Gator? --Damian Yerrick (☎) 23:43, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Pop Culture
Does anyone know enough to add a section about how razors have been used in pop culture, particularly the punk subculture? The Punk article says that razor blades are used as jewelery; one example of the is the movie SLC Punk where Stevo, the main character wears a razor on a necklace, and earrings. This also ties in with the "Suicide Razor Blades" above. Danielbot 19:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
actually, some Gothics use it to perform self-injury.
sorry not just goths but mostly emo kids yes u heard me emo kids me being one of them
[edit] Death?
The straight razor can easily slip and sever the head from the body? Doesn't that sound a little excessive? David Corbett 01:05, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
yeah it seems like someone may have vandalized the straight razor section. the idea that you need a lot of training or you'll kill yourself, decapitation, and the term "throat loppers" are clearly tongue in cheek. that section really needs a rewrite.
[edit] Double Edged Razors
I know little about double edged razors, but this section needs to be cleaned up. Providing a photo of the holder and blade would be helpful. Additionally, some of the information in this section seems to be biased towards this method without any citations of its advantages. Swax 06:12, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Neutrality of multi-razor blades
This section appears to be written mostly for the purpose of criticizing major companies like Gillette and Schick and contains no sourced information. I think it needs rewriting or at least some editing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Monkeysyodel (talk • contribs) 21:37, 11 February 2007 (UTC).
- I agree wholeheartedly. I just tried to refactor a bunch of stuff and remove POV nonsense, but it still needs more references. -- timc talk 14:38, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Safety razor section split
I suggest that the Safety razor section be split into a separate article. I'm not sure what information should be left behind in this article, but if anyone is inclined they could give it a shot. -- timc talk 14:50, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
The original parent article IS called Safety Razor. How about splitting the "modern" safety razors off instead? 68.145.103.13 05:36, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but this article is called Razor. It refers to more than safety razors. Much as straight razors have a few paragraphs here and then a separate article with more detail, I think it makes sense to include a few paragraphs here with more detail at a separate article. The safety razor section dominates this article more than it should. -- timc talk 14:09, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
It might be helpful to the reader to include a link to this comprehensive guide to shaving with a safety razor. This was at one time included in the references, but has been excised. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Montereyham (talk • contribs) 15:38, 21 February 2007 (UTC).
- I don't think those links are really necessary in an encyclopedia article, and I believe that is why they were excised in the first place. -- timc talk 23:13, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
I support the article split proposal. Shorten the safety razor material in this article, and strenthen the paragraph/section on straight razor. In fact, I would think the straight razor section should also be reordered to be ahead of the safety razor section, since it preceded it in historical time. N2e 14:12, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well, the ordering is debatable. One should also consider that the majority of razors in use are safety razors, so that may provide justification for placing that section first. I'm not against chronological ordering, but there is overlap between straight/safety/electric razors. -- timc talk 19:05, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] single-edge blades used for shaving
Single edged blades can also be used for shaving using GEM Micromatic razors. Some people may still own them and they are available on the internet, antique stores, etc.
[edit] Electric-Razor Batteries
The section on Electric-Razor Batteries sounds more like rant from an annoyed consumer than an enccyclopaedic entry. This is probably more appropriate for a personal blog or consumer advocacy forum. Martyvis 04:27, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] history/manufacturing information?
For anyone who has the expertise or the research time, I'd like to see more in this article about the history of razor blades, and how they were made and maintained with earlier technology, as well as information about how they are manufactured today. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.88.157.78 (talk) 03:37, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Spring razor
The article does not mention that there were also "spring razors", i.e. a spring powered mechanical razor. For example the one produced by Thorens, in the fifties (see here). In my opinion it is an interesting an missing information. If you whant, I've one, and can make a picture of it. Momet (talk) 09:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] The "Rolling Razor"
This looks much like an advertisement. If nobody complains, I'll erase it. Momet (talk) 20:00, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
