Talk:Razor 1911

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Fixed the logo, uploaded correctly colored ansi version and changed text, it's ansi art, not ascii art. Zokum 11:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

i think that razor 1911 is(/was?) the best group @ the scene

I remember the game Gremlins for Apple ][ cracked by Razor. Respect.

This article could really use some more detail on the last couple of years (ie, since Operation Buccaneer). It seems to me that this group has not been much affected by the arrests, but I don't know enough about them to provide any real detail.

I remember a few of them personally, especially their former associate Brandon of Wilson, North Carolina. A traitor he was.

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[edit] Delete 2006 return section

I believe the 2006 return section should be removed, because of it's speculative and leading nature. 202.89.153.166 10:24, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


Yes, some information are not right. Look:

(Breen) "He was sentenced February 10, 2004 to 50 months in prison and three years of supervised release"
But then, in 2006 "Almost exactly on the date that Sean Michael Breen was released, Razor 1911 started releasing games again."
Wait a moment! 50 month = 4.1 years + 3 years supervised = 7 years ! how come he got released in only 2 ????

Someone pleace explain this... --R2cyberpunk 10:20, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Parole maybe? -Arch NME 13:23, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


The "return" of razor 1911 can be questioned further by a look at a crack for civilization 4 that's available on the edonkey network (emule). Here, the crack is thoroughly bundled with adware/spyware, as detailed in the installers' lengthy license agreement.(!) This and the use of a near standard windows installer indicate a cracker or spyware distributor sailing under false flag. This could very well be the case with other recent Razor 1911 releases. EverGreg 15:05, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 777 vs 666

I find the following segment a bit speculative:

'The group was originally founded as Razor 2992 by Doctor No, Insane TTM and Sector9 in Norway, October 1985 as a Commodore 64 software cracking group. Shortly after, they changed from 2992 to 1911 as an internal jab at the lamers in The Scene who tended to overuse the number 666 - the suffix "1911" translates to 777 in hexadecimal.'

The segment makes it sound like "666" was in common usage in the scene back in 1985, which was not the fact. In fact, I cant recall any major group that used 666 in their groupname or in an official way.

To me this sounds like a modern day construction, as something former members are promoting as part of building a myth.

I'd also refrain from using the term "lamers" in this concept since it was a term that didnt become common until 1987 (or maybe 1988) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mlonnqvist (talk • contribs) 09:31, 26 April 2007 (UTC).

I agree. The straightforward explanation would be the significance of 777 on Unix filesystems, but this would point toward the hacking scene instead, unless it's meant to be symbolical, in a "free for all" sense. EverGreg 14:55, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, no, the name is pre (mainstream) unix shell access, even pre BBS. Quick example: http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=11093. Nosferatu of Razor 1911 stated in "Norsk datormagasin" (Norwegian inlay to the swedish "Datormagazin") in ca. 1991-1992 that the name was picked because the first condom factory was opened in 1911, but I think that it was ment as a joke (But whatever is printed on paper is seem like the holy verified source grail around here, so it might show up). http://www.laric.com/razor/history/history.html is legit, according to a friend who knows Sector9 personally, and it refers to the $777 explanation. The whole subject of warez and computer folklore is a problem around Wikipedia because of the "no original research" demand :( Mkro (talk) 11:04, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 17:35, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Crysis date

There's a bit of an edit war currently going on about the release date of Crysis.

The text currently reads:

On the 11th of November 2007, Razor 1911 cracked and released Crysis 5 days before its release.

This is misleading as the game was released and sold on the 13th. Even if we ignore that and go by EA's "official launch" we end up with the game being released on November 15th. This is four days after it was cracked and released by Razor. Either way, the page appears to be incorrect in its current status. I'd like to reach a consensus about what we should go with... My personal feeling is that it should be the 13th, otherwise it will directly conflict with Crysis' article.

- ZoeF (talk) 04:55, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Crysis date

Razor1911's release is from EU disk, which was supposed to be released on Nov.16th, November 13th is launch date for US version. Thats why I think it should say they released crysis five days before retail release, not 2 days. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.87.25.144 (talk) 06:54, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Razor1911 early parole?

The Razor1911 cyperpirate group has been corrupted, early releases and reductions in fines and penalties (selectively or collectively?) have been given in exchange for producing new materials that have their torrents fitted with an unassuming "movie-trailer" executable that acts as a monitoring agent for a swiss EU security company that has been hird by various gaming agencies. A torrent group "Two Worlds" (Two_Worlds_[Razor1911]_[mininova].torrent) @ www.mininova.org & (Two_Worlds_[Razor1911]_[thepiratebay].torrent)@ www.thepiratebay.org has been so fitted.


Reliable Source:

Posted by edvin777 on Mar 06 2008 at 02:22 a swiss company is monitoring this torrent and selling any involved IP-s to game companies and their lawyers are threatening individual people already with legal action if they dont settle at £400-1300 damages to pay: source: http://torrentfreak.com/uk-bittorrent-users-under-more-pressure-from-lawyers-080111/ forums: http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=31051&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=8b738cd6ea2a54d326d9e5e2abda9034&start=1000 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.174.195.158 (talk) 23:56, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Posted by Warchild100 on Feb 20 2008 at 08:15 Just a warning: Received a letter from solicitors working on behalf of Reality Pump the makers of Two Worlds advising me that I had been caught downloading this game and now have to pay a huge fine for damages caused. They managed to get my IP address as well as the name of the torrent I downloaded. Doesn't matter if you did or didn't download this, if your IP address shows up, they will nail you anyway.

All the name said was: Two_Worlds-Razor1911

Just please be aware that THEY are watching now!! This is no joke. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.174.195.158 (talk) 00:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)