User talk:Ray larabie

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I see you've been happily editing an article about yourself Ray Larabie which is a little bit discouraged in wikipedia world. Never mind for now. I've taken out your long list of fonts and made a separate list page. This is slightly more the wikipedia style. I hope you're ok with it. SuzanneKn 22:17, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Font list

Although longer I felt that it fell under Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of fonts by Ray Larabie. If you feel that it should exist then the place to go is Wikipedia:Deletion review. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 23:52, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

The content was removed from the visible page per this discussion. You can still copy the old content through the history page [1]. If you need any help, please post on my talk page -- Jreferee 06:58, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Ray, this is not a win or lose situation. You put your Deletion review comment on the wrong day and it got moved to the correct day and there were several comments. The comments can be seen at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 March 17. You may need to click on the show button on the bottm right hand side to see them. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 09:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

What you want is the history. If you go to List of fonts by Ray Larabie and List of Ray Larabie fonts, those are both the last versions before they were changed to redirects. You go to List of Ray Larabie fonts and then click on the history tab and see which one you want. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 10:04, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Ray Larabie fonts

There was an incomplete list of fonts on this page on March 16th. I completed the list and it vanished. I'm been searching for hours for some kind of explanation. Do you know what happened to it? If there a problem with completing an incomplete list? The data I used was accurate. I don't understand why the page disappeared and was replaced with a redirect. -- Ray larabie 03:55, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

In short, living person Ray Larabie cannot be a Wikipedia source for a List of Ray Larabie's fonts since Ray Larabie is not a source that is independent from the content of the list. Here is how the redirect came about. The incomplete list of fonts on the Ray Larabie biography was moved[2] to List of Ray Larabie fonts because such a long list is not appropriate for a Wikipedia biography on Ray Larabie. Then, most of the content of List of Ray Larabie fonts was deleted from Wikipedia as a result of the Articles for Deletion discussion located here. List of Ray Larabie fonts was then made into a redirect as a result of that same Articles for Deletion discussion. Since the notable parts of the list was merged into the Ray Larabie article as a result of the Articles for Deletion debate and the remainder of that list was deleted as a result of that debate, you cannot recreate the deleted material to complete an incomplete list. Even though the list may have been accurate, there are other requirements that the list did not meet. Lists on Wikipedia require an unambiguous statement of membership criteria based on definitions made by appropriate sources. You may want to read Wikipedia:List guideline and appropriate sources to get a better idea of what may be included in a Wikipedia list. -- Jreferee 05:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)