Talk:Raufoss Mk 211

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[edit] Raufoss .50 BMG cartridge

I removed this big from the Raufoss page on the town. I don't know if it is redundant with this article or not.

"Raufoss" is also a common term used to describe a particular type of multipurpose .50 caliber ammunition created and produced by the munitions factory in Norway of the same name. It is officially called Mk211. The .50 Raufoss multipurpose cartridge was designed to give special forces operators and Browning machine gun controllers a round that could be used as an armor-piercing incendiary explosive round that would be suitable for anti-material targets such as vehicles and parked aircraft. Also it could be employed for anti-personnel targets at long-range. The Raufoss .50 round itself is easily identified by its sea-green colored bullet tip over a underlying tip color of white/silver. The headstamp on the casing can also help to identify the round as Raufoss and some common headstamps include: HXP89, WCC94 & FN91; or HXP, WCC or FN with different 2-digit numbers as production year suffixes. The US military refers to this round as the "MK211 Mod 0" .50 BMG cartridge. The internal characteristics of the round are such that it contains a tungsten carbide penetrator tip, Zirconium incendiary material, and hi-explosive tip to disperse fragments inside target. The term "high-explosive" is a bit of a stretch to describe the fragmenting compound in the bullets tip which is meant to distribute the incendiary compound after penetration of the target. The bullet does not actually contain any C4 or Semtex explosive, but a similar less-dangerous material is contained within. Technically it is legal for civilians to own this ammunition, although it must be through the appropriate channel or purchase from dealers who have supply run-offs from government contracts. Raufoss ammunition can only truly be found in the .50 BMG caliber, although the gunbroker.com seller "Ammotogo" does sell a line of copycat "raufus" (note spelling) ammunition in smaller rifle calibers such as .308, 30-06, 7.62x39, & .223. Although the listings claim phenomenal result from these rounds, those smaller calibers are not nearly as impressive as the original .50 BMG round, but are mostly an improved flash-bang type of bullet tip. Original .50 BMG raufoss cartridges will sell for anywhere from $40.00 to $60.00 on the resale ammunition market through such go-between auction sites as Gunbroker.com and Auctionarms.com. The complete raufoss .50 cartridges are not legal in California, Illinois, NYC, or Washington D.C. Arsenikk 18:08, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree that it was not in the correct location at the Raufoss Norway page. good job. I copied some of the ID and nomenclature information into the article from that body above. The rest of it for the most part is redundant B4Ctom1 20:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fuse or fuze?

"Fuse" or "fuze" - I originally used the term fuze in the article, believing it to be the correct term, but somebody changed it to fuse. What is the best term to use... (yeah yeah nitpick I know, but as a non-native english speaker I'm interested in what the best term is.) Abel29a 03:15, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Here in the wiki: [[1]] a fuse is one thing, and a Fuze is what is used in the tip of a bullet or projectile. I think you were right, and whomever changed it was wrong. I am changing it back. B4Ctom1 04:29, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Or so they say..."

"Most nations using the round train their soldiers not to deploy the projectile against personnel, but in the heat of battle such regulations are easily overlooked. Also, many parties currently fielding the ammunition have no such regulations."

Whos to say? Can someone document this statement. Dosent read like something that should be here without just cause.

Magnus —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.69.180.251 (talk) 11:30, 8 May 2008 (UTC)