User talk:Raso mk

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Hi. am Raso mk

And now you're indef-blocked. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:37, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Note: This user has previously posted from IPs in the 77.183.0.0/16 range. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:39, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
I dont want to be blocked. im sorry. Can i now editing with goot purposes. Ok thanks raso mk


Ako sakaš da pridonesuvaš, jas možam da ti gi preveduvam pridonesite vo potočno angliski [od skršeno angliski, ne od makedonski]
English: If you want to contribute, I can translate your contributions to correct English [from broken English, not from Macedonian]. BalkanFever 07:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


It doesn't worth it, everything is meaningless when I am blocked. The English Wikipedia loses a good user and contributer. raso mk 10:34, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
It is true that this blocking is not fair enough. We can see and read many discussions of users who write many nonsenses based on the ethnicity or the language of some people but they are not blocked. If we want to be equal in Wikipedia then stop blocking only certain users primary the Macedonian users. Unblock this user immediately . --MacedonianBoy (talk) 10:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


To BalkanFever... thanks for your support. If I need something I will ask you for help. Wikipedia wants making friendships, exchange of information and positive energy. raso mk 10:59, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely, which is why nobody is allowed to make racist comments. If someone says something to you, tell an admin (probably Fut. Perf.). But don't start with those things - they lead to a lot more blocking. BalkanFever 11:04, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
One user makes me very NERVOUS and I have told him something accidenetly and he had complained to someone I know the situation now much better.

Thanks raso mk 11:21, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


Are you planing to continue with that non-christian and uncivilized acts Thousend times I have been asking you to unblock me. After all of these we can see what kind of people are administrators (read discriminators). raso mk 23:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


To Future Perfect at Sunrise..... Das kann nicht war sein!!!!!!!! Mach jetzt schluss damit. Lass mich rein. Ich habe da lektion geübt! oki! Ich mache das nicht mehr! ist das klar? ich gebe dir mein WORT!! raso mk 23:29, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I wasn't watching your page all this time, didn't see any unblock request.
If you want your block reviewed by somebody else, just place {{unblock|your reason}} on this page, and some other admin will be round shortly. To fellow admins: feel free to handle this as you like; if you want to unblock, no need to consult me. Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:03, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


Hör mal Fut.Perf. . ich weiss nicht , was mit meinem bulder loss ist. fast alle sind von wikipedia. manche kann man kopieren, manchmal kann man nicht. Wenn ich ein problem habe, dann sag mir wie das geht. Ich schreibe immer, dass das bild von einem wikipedianer ist. ich weiss nicht wie. ich bin neu. nur 1 monat bin ich aktiv.ich dachte ist normal, wen ein bild von wiki ist, dass man one probleme nutzen kann. gruss got --Raso mk (talk) 15:40, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Also schön :-) Zunächst mal: Jedes Bild braucht (1) eine Quelle, (2) eine Copyright-Legitimation, (3) im Zweifelsfall einen Beweis für diese Legitimation. Alles drei muss auf die Bildbeschreibungsseite. (Hier auf en-wiki gibt es dafür meist vorgefertigte Tag-Templates.) Dabei gilt Wikipedia selbst nicht als Quelle, sondern du musst die Quelle dokumentieren, wo der andere Wikipedianer das Bild ursprünglich her hat.

Dann musst du unterscheiden zwischen drei Typen von Legitimationen: ein Bild kann sein:

  • (a) völlig frei ("public domain", "gemeinfrei"), d.h. es besitzt überhaupt niemand ein Copyright dafür. Das gilt im Allgemeinen nur für ganz alte Bilder (wenn der ursprüngliche Autor mehr als 70 Jahre tot ist). Im Zweifelsfalle musst du dafür einen Beweis liefern können.
  • (b) unter freier Lizenz (z.B. "GFDL" oder "cc-by-sa"). Das heißt, es gibt jemanden, dem das Bild gehört, aber derjenige hat es der Allgemeinheit zur freien Verfügung gestellt. Das gilt z.B. für Bilder, die ein anderer Wikipedianer selbst gemacht und dann hochgeladen hat, oder für manche (aber längst nicht alle) Bilder auf Flickr. Bei Flickr muss man immer auf die Copyright-Symbole achten, da muss "cc-by-sa" stehen. Auch hierfür musst du gegebenenfalls einen Beweis liefern können, also in der Regel einen genauen Link auf die Seite, wo der andere die Lizenz gegeben hat.
  • (c) sog. "fair-use": Das heißt, das Bild gehört jemandem, aber du hast einen besonderen Grund, warum du es sogar ohne seine Zustimmung für besondere Zwecke verwenden darfst. Das gilt in der Regel dann, wenn du in einem Artikel über das Bild selbst sprechen willst. Z.B. wenn du einen Artikel über ein Gemälde schreiben willst, darfst du ein Bild des Gemäldes hochladen. In der Regel sind alle Bilder aus dem Bereich Film, Popmusik, Fernsehen, Comics usw. solche nicht-freien Bilder, die gehören immer den kommerziellen Verlagen oder Studios. Die zu benutzen, geht also immer nur mit besonderer Begründung ("fair use rationale").

Soweit verstanden? Fut.Perf. ☼ 15:55, 16 February 2008 (UTC)


OK. Ab jetzt weiss ich schon. Kannst du jetzt auf mich gut achten. Ich habe das auch in mazedonische Wiki gelesen, aber kann sein dass ich nicht gut verstanden habe. wie ich gesagt habe, dachte ich wenn etwas von Wiki ist muss man nich die Quelle überwiesen. Aber jetzt sehe ich dass , das falsch war. Na gut. ich werde achten. troztdem danke. gut zu wissen. --Raso mk (talk) 16:08, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Okay, so I'll unblock you for now. However, I'll ask you to not upload any images here on Wiki, until we've seen you've cleaned up stuff on mk-wiki and have really understood the copyright stuff. If you really need an image, please ask an admin for advice before you upload it. Of course, I also expect you'll keep away from all ethnic insults or other inflammatory ethnic polemics. I'll list your name here, noting that any admin is entitled to re-block you in case you cause any trouble. Fut.Perf. ☼ 16:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Ok. alles klar. ab nächstes mal frage ich. Und das mit etnische atake war nur gelbe minute. Thanks and i hope for colaboration.--Raso mk (talk) 16:19, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] What do you want

I have provided sources for my edits and you haven't. Deleting sourced material is considered vandalism. You have absolutely no right to revert my changes. Give me a reason. Besides the old This is propaganda stuff cause I have provided sources. If you have any - provide them - if not - do not vandalize the page. --Laveol T 21:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Just keep talking... Карваните си врват, а кучињата си лаат...Regards --Raso mk (talk) 21:16, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
This is not a joke. You can ignore me, but you cannot ignore rules. --Laveol T 21:22, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, but i play by rules. or...?--Raso mk (talk) 21:24, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Well no, you don't. You're deleting sourced stuff. If you have a source about the issue - provide it. If you don't - do not delete relevant info. --Laveol T 21:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
What are you talking about??? Are you confused or something? --Raso mk (talk) 21:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I see you don't like discussions. Btw in the text you removed you said you were not going to make any contributions - why are you doing it then? --Laveol T 21:36, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry братко ама ај терај си ја работата и не ме присилувај да бидам непристоен. Go on and make your "realistic" contributions. --Raso mk (talk) 21:43, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Not a good idea...

[1] I must warn you: The only place in the world where you can validly and effectively sue a fellow Wikipedian is a court in Trenton, New Jersey. And believe me, you don't really want to go there.. Fut.Perf. ☼ 22:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I did not mean to sue him on real court instead of that i ment to inform you about this vandalism. There is no reason to be deleted the macedonians of great importance. regards. --Raso mk (talk) 22:28, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disruptive editing

Why are you and your friend undoing all my edits? Do you have an idea that such edits are disruptive? Is this some sort of an ill co-ordination effort? You really need to get familiar as to how the project works. Making disruptive edits only because you think you'll annoy someone is not the best thing you could do.--Laveol T 22:58, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

And do you know that your edits are typical vandalism and you are making efforts for representing the Bulgarian propaganda? You are changing things and thaughts that are acceptable for a vast majority of the users and especially acceptable for the administrators? Review your self and than we can talk about fair play. --Raso mk (talk) 09:29, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Do you stick to the vandalism part? Calling valid edits vandalism is pretty high on the list of things you should not do on Wikipedia --Laveol T 21:12, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] April 2008

With regard to your comments on Talk:Dialects of Macedonian language: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. [2] [3] NikoSilver 23:54, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dialects of the Macedonian Language

zdravo, raso would you be interested in writing a dialect article on this page? Dialects of the Macedonian language so depending on where you live maybe??? get back to me P m kocovski (talk) 10:12, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

cao, sakas da pomozhas na ovaa statija? Geographical distribution of the Macedonian Language ako imase interesa?? get back to meP m kocovski (talk) 06:56, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

fala mnogo! —Preceding unsigned comment added by P m kocovski (talk • contribs) 13:19, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:

Vaistina voskrese! BalkanFever 02:36, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Mia logo.gif

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[edit] Please use English

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[edit] Macedonian interwiki

Why did the administrator ask you to write macedonian interwiki instead of + interwiki mk? [4] To annoy Bulgarian and Greek editors? Cause it's what he has written. How nice and encyclopedic of him. --Laveol T 16:09, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Mr. Bond, do you spy me? Obviously the conversation between me and the administrator had effects, or not? Do you mind that or should I write fyromian wiki? --Raso mk (talk) 16:50, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
I have an old argument with the administrator in question. The conversation evidently had effects. It's obvious from your edits since then. --Laveol T 17:03, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, i know your problem with him. --Raso mk (talk) 17:11, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
I was going to tell you that those images are on MKpedia only, but I see you've figured it out. Cheers. --Laveol T 21:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Iks-ban.gif

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[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:SAS logo mk.jpg)

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[edit] Threatening users

How can I explain you that this threat is not ok? You cannot tell a user: If you make another dumb edit on En wiki, you'll take the consequences on MK wiki. And I'm serious. You cannot use threats on wiki, no way. And, yes, I'm mr Bond.--Laveol T 06:22, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Aha. Ok mr Bond!--Raso mk (talk) 07:12, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Source

Would you stop inserting unverifiable and probably untrue sources to articles. Another re-instation would be close to vandalism --Laveol T 17:12, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

And when you will stop with your disliking of the macedonian people. Why do you mind the use of the Macedonian language?--Raso mk (talk) 17:29, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I mind the source - if you can fix it fine, if not, stop it. I'm aware you only want to try to annoy me if possible, but it doesn't work. Or you might just not see the problem with the source? Do you think the source is alright?--Laveol T 17:31, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
The source is not perfect, but is satisfied.--Raso mk (talk) 17:44, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Is what? You mean it's satisfying? How? Could you point me to the link where I can read the article? --Laveol T 19:57, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Note

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[edit] Hy

Just hy! Pozdrav--Makedonij (talk) 21:53, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Jas go vikam shadow,oti se so pisam toj brise,no ne mislam deka e tolku slab,ima i poslabi od nego,mislam deka e samo tvrdoglav,no ako mora veke da sorabotuvame ke mora da prifati kompromis.Pozdrav--Makedonij (talk) 22:05, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
А пак јас го викам James Bond. Бидејќи ме следи и шпионира и на македонската вики. Јас дури и неможам раат на македонската да пишам а тој да не види и одма да искоментира на англиската. Ама и јас сум се обидел со него да воспоставам коректен однос, но тој упорно тера по свое. Некои едноставно живеат во минатото.--Raso mk (talk) 22:16, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
[Redacted] --Makedonij (talk) 21:18, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
[Redacted] --Raso mk (talk) 21:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
And how do you know that?--Laveol T 21:25, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh my bulgarian fallow, Baba Vanǵa is from Macedonia, isnt she? --Raso mk (talk) 21:30, 29 May 2008 (UTC) P.S. Someone is Bond someone is shadow and someone is Vanǵa :-)

Guys, I don't know what you are doing here, but if you are trying to "out" another wikipedian's real-life identity here, let me tell you that this is strictly forbidden and will get you indef-banned. No joke. Fut.Perf. ☼ 22:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, Raso mk - do that again and I'll indefinitely block you myself. Revealing personal information on another editor like that, especially requiring oversight, is a sure way to get blocked - Alison ❤ 23:55, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of MOST (Association)

The article MOST (Association) has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done because the article seemed to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the notability of the subject may be deleted at any time. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources.

Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and for specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for musicians, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 19:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I guess you may have a point. The deletion was formally correct insofar as, at that time, the article didn't express the claim to notability very clearly, but I'd say it's generally not a very good practice to delete a new article so quickly (just five minutes after creation) in such a case. The good side of it is, as the message above indicates, you're actually free to recreate the article, without asking for permission or anything; just make sure you have sources ready to establish notability. Let me know if you need access to the deleted text to recover it; I could undelete it for you. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:31, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
I've put you a copy in your userspace, here, so you can work on it at your leasure. I didn't undelete it right away into article space because the text is not really suitable yet. Please work a bit on removing the POV-ish tone of the first paragraph, it sounds like the association's own advertisement. Once you're confident it's improved sufficiently, you can move it back into mainspace. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:37, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Danke nochmal --Raso mk (talk) 20:42, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry but I still feel your draft reads too much like an advertisement. It sounds as if you'd taken a lot of statements over from your sources quite directly, and they are still in the same style that the organisation might use in talking about itself ("The MOST mission is to contribute for developing a more democratic, more stabile and prosperous Macedonia"; "In order to accomplish the mission and goals of the organization, the activities of MOST are being conducted in the frames of the following programs"; "The successful cooperation on different initiatives was realized with International organizations"; "When it comes to MOST and the project implementation it could be said that MOST is a unique type of network. Actually, it is something between network and coalition"; et cetera.) All in all, there seems to be a lack of independent, outside sources about this organisation. There is just that one short article in FOCUS Information [5], which sounds like it was just the organistion's own press release reprinted. Then there is this page, which doesn't really support what your text says, it mentions neither MOST nor the "Conference" it serves as a footnote for. Similar for this webpage, it doesn't even mention MOST. this one simply mentions the organisation and its president, serving to confirm that the organisation exists but not much more. All the claims about what it actually is and what they actually do is sourced to their own website. That's pretty thin, and I'm afraid this article would still have a hard time surviving at AfD. Fut.Perf. ☼ 05:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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