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[edit] Welcome!

Welcome!

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed that you edited a professional wrestling related article. Wikipedia has a professional wrestling WikiProject, which aims to improve all professional wrestling related articles. You are free to join or can explore what the project is about by clicking here. Here are some other good links to help you get started with Wikipedia:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 19:07, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Please stop

Please stop changing genre delimiters for bands such as Metallica. I know you only did this to a handful of bands, but still. Changing genre delimiters just incties edit wars. Thank you. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 20:06, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

There's supposed to be commas unless there's 2 genres or less.

142.162.196.92 (talk) 20:56, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm afraid Mr. Sockpuppet, you're wrong. General concensus over genre delimiters is to leave them as they are for now. Perhaps you should check around again. You will find many articles with line breaks that have many more than 2 genres. You might be interested to take a look at Template:Infobox Musical artist and you will see there is NO rule that says anything beyond two genres means using comma breaks; quite the opposite in fact. Commas are better used where there are only two genres or they all fit on the same line. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 21:19, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Mr. Navlos is editing based on his POV. If there are 3 or more... go ahead and be bold. 156.34.211.193 (talk) 21:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

You will find many articles with line breaks that have many more than 2 genres

...and I'll fix them.

142.162.196.92 (talk) 21:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Great job. Now you're being productive. My AGF is getting stronger that a range block will not be required for you... Mark753. 156.34.211.193 (talk) 21:44, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't troll anymore. It's done now..

142.162.196.92 (talk) 21:45, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry

For the misunderstanding. Didn't mean for it to sound like I was laughing at you. I'm laughing at them because of how pointless their acts against me were. Sorry. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 21:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] April 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, you may not know that Wikipedia has a Manual of Style that should be followed to maintain a consistent, encyclopedic appearance. Using different styles throughout the encyclopedia, as you did in Motörhead (album), makes it harder to read. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 20:29, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

If there's two genres, it's BRs.

RandySavageFTW (talk) 21:03, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are talking about? Read WP:ALBUM. Genres are separated by commas and only the first word of the first genre listed is capitalized. The rest are lower case. It makes no difference if there are 2, 3, 4 or more. Fields in all album articles are separated by commas. If you have any questions feel free to ask and I will assist you. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 21:08, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I see that they got to you again. Yes, for albums there is a rule for comma breaks (although if you look at the vast majority of metal albums on wikipedia, they use line breaks) but as for infoboxes in band articles, there's no such rule. you already know I prefer line breaks, but I just wish people would stop changing them. It's all so inane. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 21:37, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not changing them..

RandySavageFTW (talk) 22:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Promo (professional wrestling)

I removed Sunny from the list due to this "They are said to be "good on the mic." Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Steve Austin, Dusty Rhodes, The Rock, Jim Cornette, Sunny" (bolding done by me for emphasis), and "and some not (eg. Hogan, Sunny)". Is it just me or is Sunny's name there twice? Is this not both redundant and contradictory? I shall revert your undoing of my original edit, but please be more careful in future. Thanks, ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 23:30, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Sunny, Ric Flair, Shawn Michaels,  Triple H, Mick Foley, Jesse Ventura, Jake Roberts, Chris Jericho, Terry Funk, Harley Race, Randy Savage, and Roddy Piper's careers were made on their ability to cut good promos, some in conjunction with their excellent ring-work (eg. Jericho, Michaels, Flair), and some not (eg. Hogan, Sunny).

It says Sunny and Hogan were good on the mic, contrary to their ring work, which was bad. It doesn't say Sunny is good on the mic and bad on the mic.

RandySavageFTW (talk) 00:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

My bad. I read it wrong. It sounded strange to me, so I removed Sunny. please free to readd her. ♥Nici♥Vampire♥Heart♥ 13:32, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Your recent edits of Black Sabbath to List of best-selling music artists

First look at the sales figure of 100 million records here which is the number that has been claimed by the source that you seem to be quite fond of and then take a look at the sales figure of 50 million records (under their bio-section)here which is the number stated on their official website. Which one do you think is closer to the actual sales figure especially when they state another 50 million as a sales figure for the period of Ozzy Ozbourne's solo career? Don't you think that the 100 million figure on www.mybrum.co.uk is the combined number for both Black Sabbath and the solo career? --Harout72 (talk) 01:33, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Your source says as of 1979, Sabbath has sold 50 million.

Don't you think that the 100 million figure on www.mybrum.co.uk is the combined number for both Black Sabbath and the solo career?

No..

RandySavageFTW (talk) 09:41, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Here, I will help you to read what needs to be read in the source to verify sales figures. Here is a copied and pasted lines from Black Sabbath/Ozzy Ozbourne's official web site [1]:
  1. Ozzy releases his first record with Black Sabbath in 1970 (released Friday, February 13th). The self-titled record goes platinum that same year in the U.K. and U.S.
  2. Ozzy releases 10 records with Black Sabbath.
  3. Black Sabbath has sold over 50 million records (to date) worldwide.
  4. Black Sabbath embarks on several world tours and performs to legions of fans around the globe.
  5. Black Sabbath performs at the first California Jam in June 1974 to over 250,000 fans.
  6. Ozzy leaves Black Sabbath and goes solo in 1979.
By the way, my source as you like to refer it to, does not say as of 1979, Black Sabbath has sold 50 million but rather this is what it says:
Black Sabbath has sold over 50 million records (to date) worldwide.

Hope this helped. Regards.--Harout72 (talk) 01:48, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

There's no proof that it meant today. It probally meant '79.

RandySavageFTW (talk) 09:42, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] R.e and

I was just pointing out why undid it there's no need to be rude Adster95 (talk) 18:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

You could have used the edit summary.

RandySavageFTW (talk) 18:56, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

sorry im a little new to wikipedia Adster95 (talk) 19:00, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] About the edit war on the Arise article

Greetings...

A) On Marth 17th 2008, at 18:17, I changed the "Genre" tag on the music box the preferred form. I wrote on the edit summary: Featured articles on Wikipedia such as the NIN or the Metallica page list the music genres like this. If anyone disagrees, provide a good rationale before changing.

B) On May 4rth, 2008, at 15:41, you changed the "Genre" tag, without providing any explanation for that. I did another edit at 22:09, and wrote on the edit summary: Some featured thrash articles on Wikipedia such as Metallica and Slayer have the "Genre" tag presented this way. If anyone disagrees about this, please provide rationale. Let me emphasize this:

B.1) These are featured articles - or, the best articles produced on Wikipedia. Interestingly, these "best of Wikipedia" articles have the "Genre" tag formatting the way I proposed them for Sepultura.

B.2) Sepultura is (mainly) a thrash metal band, so I reasoned that their article should have some similarities with other major thrash bands (Anthrax, Megadeth), i.e. the "Genre" tag.

B.3) So, if you wished to change the "Genre" tag again, at least you could have written something along to justify it.

C) At 22:35 you undid my edit, and again provided no explanation. So I also undid your edit, and wrote on the summary: Didn't provide rationale before changing. Vandalism? You undid my edit again and wrote: Don't know what you['re talking about]. (You wrote the same thing of your edits on the Chaos A.D. article.)

Yes, you knows what I'm talking about. A quick visit to this talk page and anyone can notice that it's not the first time you have engaged on a edit war over the issue at hand. That's why I wrote on the edit summary, "Yes you do. Visit your own talkpage, under "Please stop" section".

D) And yet again he undid my revision, without further explanation. And, again, I undid his revision, and added to the summary, "Again?"

E) Another "undid" from your part, and wrote: "rv vandalism?" Cute. So I'm the vandal?

I hope we can settle this nicely...

Musicaindustrial (talk) 12:27, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes you do. Visit your own talkpage, under "Please stop" section

Navlos can say what he wants. It doesn't mean it's true. Also, Navlos already said albums have commas..

Sepultura is (mainly) a thrash metal band, so I reasoned that their article should have some similarities with other major thrash bands (Anthrax, Megadeth), i.e. the "Genre" tag

Sepultura's article? I didn't even edit that.

At 22:35 you undid my edit, and again provided no explanation. So I also undid your edit, and wrote on the summary: Didn't provide rationale before changing. Vandalism?

No explanation? I posted WP:ALBUM#Genre twice.

Another "undid" from your part, and wrote: "rv vandalism?" Cute. So I'm the vandal?

Well, you called me one when you're the one ignoring the rules. So, yeah.

RandySavageFTW (talk) 18:57, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Megadeth album capitalization

I don't mean to sound like a jerk, but please don't change the capitalization for album names as you did for Peace Sells… but Who's Buying?. The conjunction 'but' is never capitalized when it's not the first or last word as per WP:CAPS. There also isn't a rule dictating that 'but' should be capitalized after ellipses.

Thank you for your understanding, Xnux the Echidna 00:05, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Sad But True?

RandySavageFTW (talk) 00:52, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

That needs to be changed too, thanks for showing me that. Xnux the Echidna 00:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
In response, the 'and' & 'the' in "Holy Wars… the Punishment Due" and Killing Is My Business… and Business Is Good! aren't capitalized either. Read WP:MUSTARD; the only times articles or conjunctions are capitalized is if they are the first or last word of a title or if they are used accordingly in parentheses (à la "(Don't Fear) The Reaper"). Xnux the Echidna 01:21, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is Chaos A.D. Death Metal?

Greetings...

I don't wish start another edit war with you. So, carefully read through my arguments and give me some feedback later.

You claim that Chaos A.D. is a death metal, based on AMG review of the album [2]. The Wikipedia staff supposedly consider the All Music Guide to be a reliable source. Fair enough. But does that does mean it's also reliable regarding Sepultura's career? I'll give you three quick examples of why might reconsider Allmusic exactness.

  • a) From their Sepultura biography: "Their drive and determination (they sang in English from day one) more than made up for their geographic isolation and inexperience..."

Wrong. They changed their lyrics to english a few months prior to recording Bestial Devastation. If you can check out the BD article, you'll see I've sourced this particular bit of information. It's on the Official Sepultura biography [3], pages 29 & 30.

  • b) From their Arise review [4]: "The band toured nonstop in support of the album for most of the following two years, and was therefore pressured by both time constraints and enormous expectations when the bandmembers finally entered Tampa's Morrisound Studios with producer Scott Burns to record 1991's Arise."

Wrong again. The Beneath the Remains tour went on for about 1 year (Barcinski & Gomes, page 83).

  • c) Allmusic states that Chaos A.D. is death metal.

That's highly controversial. The Don Kaye liner notes of Arise, for example, stated that Sepultura's fourth LP is the pinnacle of their death/thrash phase. Now, if Chaos A.D. sold way more than Arise, why is it not considered the pinnacle of their death/thrash instead? Maybe because they changed their style... And, by the way, the music press at the time certainly held that as true. They stated that Chaos A.D. helped Sepultura transcend the death/thrash style (Barcinski & Gomes, page 131).

Now, let's talk about subjetive listening experiences. Let's compare Chaos A.D. with some landmark Death Metal releases that were roughly contemporary it. Would you honestly say that Chaos A.D. neatly fits alongside Morbid Angel's Covenant? Deicide's Legion? Obituary's The End Complete? Cannibal Corpse's The Bleeding? Or is really closer to Pantera's Far Beyond Driven, Biohazard's State of the World Address or Machine Head's Burn My Eyes?

Musicaindustrial (talk) 16:24, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, fine..we'll leave it like it is. I don't even consider it death metal, just noticed they did.

RandySavageFTW (talk) 19:26, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] May 2008

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Judgment Day (2008). Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. SRX 15:43, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I did. No one replied, though. You also reverted twice.

RandySavageFTW (talk) 15:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Eddy Guerrero

I'm sorry but maybe you need to read the details of what you're deleting from the Eddie GUerrero article? I have no problems with only his highest "PWI 500" ranking, but that has nothing to do with his and Art Barr's ranking of the "top 100 tag teams of the PWI Era" at all, can we please stop this silly edits where you say "only the top ranking" and i say "it's not a PWI 500 Ranking", you're right (but it's not applicable here) and I'm right (and it is applicable). I got no problems with removing his 2003 ranking or whatever, but the tag rank is something else. MPJ-DK (talk) 19:27, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Once again, consensus is to add the highest award. That's not Eddie's highest. It doesn't matter if it's a different award.

RandySavageFTW (talk) 20:28, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reasoning for reverting?

Hi. I noticed you reverted a recent edit I made to the Benoit article. Fair enough, but when the edit isn't vandalism, it's polite to at least leave a note letting the other person know why you feel as you do. That avoids provoking a possible edit war and also avoids giving the impression that you feel a sense of ownership of the article. Thanks. --James26 (talk) 06:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, I never see any other victories listed with how they won. I don't think it's that notable.

RandySavageFTW (talk) 09:36, 2 June 2008 (UTC)