User talk:Randall Barlow

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[edit] AfD nomination of Gary Knoppers: the Chronicler (a summary)

I've nominated Gary Knoppers: the Chronicler (a summary), an article you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but in this particular case I do not feel that Gary Knoppers: the Chronicler (a summary) satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion; I have explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gary Knoppers: the Chronicler (a summary) and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Gary Knoppers: the Chronicler (a summary) during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Hemlock Martinis 07:51, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A plea to keep the article

I'm brand new to the talk pages, so hope I do this correctly. I can see you puzzling over this article on Gary Knoppers' Chronicler, it is rather deep stuff, so will attempt to unpack it a little bit. Knoppers has had thousands of pages published on the books of Chronicles and, in the company of Sara Japhet and H. G. M. Williamson is probably one of the three or four leading scholars on Chronicles in the world. Chronicles scholarship is on the cutting edge of Old Testament work these days, though it was largely ignored for centuries. I have attempted to condense those thousands of pages down to approximately 12 pages so that Wikipedia readers who are interested in academic biblical scholarship can get an overview of some of Knoppers' primary findings. They may later attempt to read those thousands of pages, but I felt they might find an brief overview (as encyclopedia's traditionally give) helpful. Knoppers' two-volume commentary on I Chronicles totals 1045 pages, and is pretty mind blowing. Two Wikipedia articles are suggested as adequate to cover this matter: (1) Anchor Bible, which is simply a listing of book titles and gives no genuine indication of content, and (2) Gary N. Knoppers which simply describes the career of the writer and academic along with a list of titles of his published works (a rather long list), but does not really have the available space to attempt to give a brief summary of his thought and research. I have begun to attempt to link this article Gary Knoppers: the Chronicler (a summary) into relevant pages such as Books of Chronicles, Chronicler, Ancient Israel and Judah, Kingdom of Judah, Documentary Hypothesis, Priestly source and other biblical studies oriented pages so that people locating those pages can see this brief overview of Knoppers' books. I was wondering if it could be categorized under headings like "Hebrew Bible" and other categories related to Old Testament research. I hope that you can help me to save this article, as you can see I've put a bit of effort into it. Please help. Best regards, Randall Barlow Randall Barlow 16:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi there Randall, I'm trying to decide how to close this AfD but wanted to ask first if you have any sources that discuss the book itself? I'm looking for a third party, objective, non-trivial source that can establish notability. Thanks. JodyB 02:27, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi Jody. Thanks for asking re: Gary Knoppers. There will be a great many book reviews of Knoppers' books in scholarly journals (such as JSOT) but my budget doesn't stretch to those subscriptions so I don't have them available. I am deeply upset over the deletion of the article, having successfully written numerous previous articles. Sadly my wife has now banned me from using wikpedia in future, much less writing for it. Apologies for such a sad note, but this has caused a lot of angst around here. Best regards, Randall Randall Barlow 11:59, 24 July 2007 (UTC)