Talk:Rant (novel)

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[edit] Date?

Sources for the release date?

[edit] Summary?

I've only just started the book, so i can't do this yet, but somebody needs to put up a plot summary.

[edit] Fill me In please?

Why is Echo Lawrence the only person not to have an Epilogue? Even characters who had one or two lines had their own Epilogue, but not Echo. Did Chuck intend for this? Did she go back, prevent the accident thus never becoming stunted and Never joinning Party Crashing? The Chracters who did go back where listed as being in an accident, their bodies never being found. KoalaMeatPie 10:08, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

What about Green Simms? If he is Rant, where does he fit in on the Rant Timeline? It can't be Chet/Rant Seeing as he went on to live in the city. KoalaMeatPie 10:08, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Rant is the new, improved Green Taylor. Originally (this is speculation somewhat supported by the book), he was born to Irene, but raised by her alone. He went to the city, but ended up transported through time and ended up fathering future generations, thus changing Irene's child into Buster, since each generation had been changed. Because of the Grandmother paradox, he ended up still existing, and I guess killing Irene would have had the same effect as had he not fiddled with history (or killing his father, but he doesn't know who that is.) Darquis 04:13, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I had just finished the book tonight, and although I have to admit that I wanted wikipedia to fill me in on why Echo didn't have an epilogue (I did have the same thoughts as the unnamed post above), and I also figured that Green and Rant/Chet were two completely different people working towards the same end. Who knows, though. Like the flow of time, somebody else could just waltz up and prove me wrong right now. 69.220.0.55 04:42, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

`The Two Posts above are both mine :-/ Sorry for the confusion. KoalaMeatPie 06:00, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Did Karl Waxman ever have a piece like Echo or Shot? If so, that would be an indication of what happened to Echo, as Karl also is not listed. Darquis 04:13, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I think that Echo went back with Chet and she herself messed around and ceased to exist or became immortal. Most characters seem to have doneso, so maybe she's to the extent of not having records anymore, yet the text based on her still existing. Sort of like time is in midway between erasing her. Who knows, maybe we'll see more of the gang in the other books?75.128.195.223 05:44, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Turner

It might be worth noting that one of the novel's "contributors," Victor Turner, (pp. 289, 293) was a real person. Then again, maybe not. 209.247.5.49 12:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree, as the liminality reference is an obvious indication. --Fragerella 01:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contradiction with Snuff

Quote: During his "Rant 2007" tour, Palahniuk has indicated that he will continue to write two more books based on Rant, to be released tentatively in 2011 and 2013 but also stated that he will be writing other books in between, with his next to be titled Snuff.

this is implying that Snuff is not part of the Rant trilogy where as on the Snuff article it does say it is (i would post this on the snuff article talk page, but this page seems more active) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coachpatato49 (talk • contribs) 22:14, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What year do you think it took place?

Victor Turner died in 1983. I cant figure it out. Not that it really matters.

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The article states that it takes place in a "dystopian future", but I disagree. Read page 313.

Echo Lawrence: "If rant ever gets it right [...] chances are you'll never have heard the name Rant Casey."
Shot Dunyan: "How weird is that? Instead of a biography, this story will become fiction. A historical artifact documenting a past that never happened."

Oh, and sign your post dude. Rusknight 23:11, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm thinking it is supposed to be a dystopian now in an alternate timeline, the only thing that gave any indication to time that I noticed was Rant used a carphone/cell phone when he called the radio station from the about to be blown up car. 198.6.46.11 (talk) 15:07, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Is it possible it takes place in the present? I think it's possible the end is meant to imply someone went back and changed the past so the world is how it is today, and that's why modern society isn't ported and divided into night and day, etc. ie: the book world is our world before one of the characters went back and changed something. I had this idea when in one of the final chapters someone comments something to the effect of "you could change the past and this story will be fiction instead of a biography." --NEMT (talk) 18:24, 28 February 2008 (UTC)