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[edit] Worst School

In the section titled 'Modern Times' it is claimed that Ramsgate has the worst school in Britain. What school is this? Where is a citation? Infact, might I be so bold as to suggest a secion on education in the town. KevinCarmody 18:10, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok, that got edited out within a minute of me posting it.. KevinCarmody 18:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sections

This page needs a Famous Residents Past and Present section. Nelson, Van Gough, Marx, Engles, etc etc. I don't mind starting on it later, but if anyone else wants to start in the interim, that would be cool. KevinCarmody 18:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Which I have now done KevinCarmody 00:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I've added to the section too now adem80 15:13, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tidy Up

Is it me or does the page seem a little disorganised?? This happens when new information is added but would it be worthwhile having a tidy up and reorganising the sections to make it cleaner?

I propose new sections of:

  • History - sections already on the page such as 'Electric tramways...' could go under this category and it would also encourage further articles on the history of ramsgate
  • Churches- this would tidy up the introduction section to make it more precise

What do you think??

adem80 15:12, 5 August 2006 (UTC)


That third paragraph definitely needs breaking down. Ok, I've had a bit of a play, how about a layout something like this (this is just a sketch):

  • History
    • Ramsgate's Royal Harbour
    • Ramsgate at war
  • Geography
  • Government
  • Affiliations (Twin cities/towns)
  • Economy
  • Demographics
  • Culture
    • Tourism
    • Sports
    • Media/arts - cinemas, galleries, films set there, like a Jive Bunny video was shot there, etc
    • Notable Residents
  • Architecture/Churches
  • Transportation
    • By Sea/Ramsgate maritime
    • By Road
    • By Rail/Electric Tramways & Lighting Co. Ltd.
    • By Air/Air links
  • Education
    • Infant Schools
    • Junior Schools
    • Primary Schools
    • Secondary Schools
    • Higher
    • Further
  • Further reading/See also
  • Notes - the page needs alot of source citing
  • External links

There is probably stuff that I've missed and stuff that is superfluous. Maybe some of the subsections wont be needed and can just be seperated on the page, like the education bit ^_^. The Modern Times section thats already on the page could easily be divided up. To call something Modern Times is a little subjective anyway, so it's not really a worry to lose that title. I don't think the page needs a seperate gallery as such, but rather have the photos weaved through the fabric of the page. Like a beach photo in a tourism section and photo of the marina in a section of the harbour.

Ok, there is something to think about.

KevinCarmody 02:11, 6 August 2006 (UTC)


That sounds really good. Giving it seperate sections will encourage further contributions. I reckon your categories will be fine and once it's been edited we can always modify some of the headers slightly if needed. adem80 17:09, 6 August 2006 (UTC)


Ok, I've given the page an overhaul using your suggestions for the headers. There are some sections that are incomplete but I included them anyway and will owrk on them over the next few days.

I've also left the gallery in there for the moment as I think it'll be better to sort out all the sections then include the various photos. adem80 18:42, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

i'm down with the gallery thing while we get sorted. we could do with more pictures, i'll head out with my camera sometime. it would also be nice if we could have a harbour plan and a town coat of arms, but image copyright be an issue with that sort of thing. i've moved alot of stuff about and hopefully made it easier to read and navigate. there are still some very shakey areas and others that need alot of expanding, but it's getting there. i've not really deleted anything, but this will still need alot of fact checking and referencing. KevinCarmody 03:26, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Totally neglected to think of the wonderful combination that is flickr and creative commons licenses. still need a crest/seal/coat of arms thing though. KevinCarmody 05:17, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Good work Kev. It's nice to see the page expanding. A lot of work to still be done, and once all the sections are complete it'll be worth reading it through completely and maybe refining a bit. 88.105.142.46 18:12, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

thanks mr ip, but i can't take the credit, compare histories and see what Adem has done. anyway, it's a bit early for the back slapping. i agree, refining is v.important. as is whats on my mind most, referencing. KevinCarmody 01:19, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


Mr IP is me!! I must've logged out by accident.adem80 09:49, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Intro

Changed intro to reflect present day Ramsgate using existing info from article body. Moved origins of the name "Ramsgate" into History section. Pgr94 05:32, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History of Ramsgate: New article?

I find the history section has plenty of interesting information but is growing too big to be part of the main Ramsgate article. I'd like to suggest we create a new article dedicated to Ramsgate's history. The main Ramsgate article could cover the salient points and link to the history article for more detail. Any opinions? Pgr94 11:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Do we expect a great deal more information to be added? If so, I don't see a problem in a split. KevinCarmody 01:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Created History of Ramsgate and summarised History section of Ramsgate. Could use some improvement... Pgr94 12:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed link to Shaw architects

Shaw architects don't belong in an article on Ramsgate. If they are sufficiently notable they should have their own article. Website in memory of the Shaw architects Pgr94 08:51, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

There is a paragraph about them in History of Ramsgate. Pgr94 08:56, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ramsgate and Eurotunnel?

"Also, a new Eurotunnel route is being buit inside Ramsgate borders in the village of Ebbsfleet to replace the current depo in Ashford, although Ashford is campaigning to keep it open."

This is news to me. Can anyone provide more info? Pgr94 18:25, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Coal Riot - unverifiable

There are no references in the following section and I was unable to verify the claims (cf WP:V). I have removed the section from the article, but if it can be substantiated then it can of course be restored.

Ramsgate has a history of industrial militancy. In August 1920, a decision by the Ramsgate corporation to sell 1000 tons of locally produced coal to Denmark set off what became known as the Coal Riot. It was unfortunate perhaps that these shipments were to be transported by two German ships, the first world war still fresh in local minds. Massive police protection of the harbour was required, but this did not prevent local people from venting their displeasure upon the local authorities.

Pgr94 (talk) 21:51, 15 February 2008 (UTC)