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Contents 1 References Needed 2 Good Samaritan Pub 3 Holcombe/Harcles Hill 4 Religion 5 Traditions 6 Peel Tower 7 Whitelow Cairn

[edit] References Needed

This article is seriously lacking in references. I have doubts about some of the information in this article that is presented as fact. If anyone could provide references to back up the following facts it would definately improve the article.

In former times the village was sometimes known locally as "Tupp's Arse" - What former times, and by who? And how do we know that?

The Black Pudding Throwing World Championship ... thought the contest stems from the War of the Roses - Where is this information from? I very much thought the contest was a modern invention by the Landlord of the Corner Pin pub in nearby Stubbins.

--Etf 09:45, 19 October 2005 (UTC) You are quite righrt about the Black Pudding championship, I was merely trying to inject some humour into the article. I will alter it slightly to reflect that. As regards the additions referring to Tupp's Arse! These were inserted by an anonymous contributor on October 13. I will revert the article to something near the original until that author provides more facts. Meanwhile, though, if you are so concerned at the lack of references in the article and obviously know some local history, why don't you alter/add to it yourself?

References seem to be all in place now apart from the one regarding the etymology of Ramsbottom. I'm pretty sure the Heritage Centre had a book that could be listed as a reference for this. Anyone still in the town who could nip down and check? Is the Heritage Centre still there? It was on Carr Street opposite the library :) -- ricmitch

Sorry, but there are a lot more references needed yet before the article is up to scratch. Richerman (talk) 17:01, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good Samaritan Pub

Not sure why people keep adding to the bottom of the article with information about this pub and it's recent drinkable offerings, people if you want to help improve the article you need to make sure your text is relevant and that it fits in with the rest of the text. --ericthefish 21:22, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Name Meaning from Dictionary of Place-Names,Adrian Roome, Bloomsbury 1988 ISBN 0 7475 0170 and summarised a little:-

"name probably means rams valley from Old English ramm(ram) and botm(valley). However some toponymists interpret it as wild-garlic-valley with the first element representing the Old English hramsa. A record from 1324 giving it as Ramesbothum is inconclusive." .. 82.38.97.206 16:14, 22 March 2006 (UTC)mikeL

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[edit] Holcombe/Harcles Hill

This has bugged me for years. Reference an OS map and you'll see that the tower sits on Harcles Hill. Holcombe Hill forms part of the moorlands behind Harcles. However, the hill is visible from the valley with Holcombe Brook and the village on its side. So it's known locally as Holcombe Hill ie the Hill near Holcombe. It's a minor point but checkable. Derbydave 12:10, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Religion

The Religion section is just a list of local churches. Surely it ought to be removed? ---- Eric 20:55, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Traditions

Is it really appropriate to include a section on a local pub crawl, the Rammy mile? ---- Eric 20:58, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peel Tower

We need a piccie of the Peel Tower. Have a look at this gallery and let me know which you would like. -- RHaworth 15:29, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

This, because it doesn't have people in it and isn't overexposed. -- Boothman _/tɔːk/ 17:50, 18 July 2007 (UTC).

Actually we already had Image:Greenmount,peeltower,snow.jpg, Image:Greenmount,peeltower,rain.jpg and Image:Peel Tower HarryP.jpg but we can still have Peel Tower 272.jpg. Whaddya mean overexposed? I think they are all correctly exposed and the one I've uploaded is, if anything, the overexposed one. -- RHaworth 19:46, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Whitelow Cairn

"...Bronze Age burial sites around Ramsbottom, the most notable of which is Whitelow Cairn...thought to date back to at least the mid-2nd century BC". In Great Britain this ended around 700BC (cf the article's own link to Bronze Age). Was this then an iron age site, or was it dated earlier than the mid-2nd century BC? 83.138.172.72 (talk) 13:03, 26 January 2008 (UTC)Bernard

Good point. As the statement is unreferenced it's hard to tell, but as the Bronze Age reference looks more consistent with a quick Google search, I've deleted the suggested age. Hopefully someone will be able to come up with a proper reference. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 16:07, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Done, the source I found didn't have a date but it did place it in the Bronze Age. Nev1 (talk) 17:17, 26 January 2008 (UTC)