Talk:Rambo
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[edit] Rambo V
After the sucess of Rambo IV rumors started to spread about Rambo V. Now just forget about rumors because now its official, Rambo V is set to release in 2009. The plot for Rambo V is either in Africa, The U.S., or an alternate story for Rambo IV in which Rambo's daughter is kipnapped by a hostile cult and he atempts to save her. Rambo V link.
[edit] Green Beret
While US Army Special Forces is more official, the term Green Berets seems to strike a more familiar tone with people so I added this term in parenthesis. BTW- the term "Green Beret" is used on the back cover of the VHS box of First Blood. Hthash 20:22, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Arthur John Rambo
Just a coincidence, but something to be respectful of: There was a soldier, SSgt Arthur John Rambo from Libby, Montana, who died in South Vietnam, 26 November, 1969.
Doesn't there need to be some more on the influence the Rambo character has had in the popular media? The red headband has become one of children's favourite accessories when they play at being soldiers. And the ridiculous amount of carnage in the latter films also came to be synonymous with what Hollywood action movies stood for right then.
I just removed the statement under Trivia about the name "John Rambo" being the "first name on the Vietnam Memorial at Arlington National Cemetery." This would be totally awesome if it were true because of the obvious "First Blood" connection. Unfortunately, the VVM is not located at Arlington National Cemetery, and there is an "Arthur John Rambo" on the wall but he couldn't be the first name because they are listed in order of death, the first being in 1957, and this Rambo fellow passed in 1969. Anyway68.115.110.78 21:53, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Japanese spelling
I just went ahead and clarified the "japanese" spelling of "ranbou" as opposed to "rambo" althought my understanding is that the pronunciation is very similar? PS the above edit regarding the VVM is from me while I wasn't logged in.Gabenowicki 03:08, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
If you object to my edits, please do discuss them before you remove them. They're there for a reason. Druworos 14:57, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Metal Gear Solid reference
Is the Metal Gear Solid reference really necessary? Nath 05:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
Not within the section it's included in. I'm going to move it to "trivia".
On second thought, it already appears to be covered under pop culture references, so I'll remove the edit I made to the trivia section.
Is it even needed? It's such a vague connection to begin with, and Kojima has never mentioned the films as an inspiration. Rhickey1986 01:57, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Criticism
I changed the word "patriotic" to "jingoistic." I realize there's a risk of becoming overly POV by saying so, but the "patriotism" in these movies seems excessive to the point of being almost a caricature, so I thought "jingoistic" was more appropriate. If you disagree, by all means revert. Septegram 20:04, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] No mension of the Star?!
Is it just me… or has this article missed the boat completely? The fact that Sylvester Stallone the star of all 3 movies isn’t even mentioned is rather poor. There’s not even see a single reference to him, that’s shocking! If it wasn’t for Sylvester Stallone, Rambo would not be the great character and icon we know today. So I think it’s essential that this article be emended to include at the very least a reference to him, or a link to his section on Wikipedia.
[edit] Rambo's Battle Cry
Does anyone have any info on the so called "Rambo Battle Cry", its basically a famous scream like The "WILHELM" Scream, so does anybody have any idea on what that cry is called, I think it was featured in an episode of Robot Chicken called "Federated Resources" where Corey Haim and Corey Feldman reunite to rescue the President's daughters.
[edit] Rambo IV
Hi:
According to the IMDB, there's a Rambo IV in the works. A citation will be needed, so I'm not including this in the article, but I recall Stallone joking at the time that Hot Shots Part Deux came out, that if he ever made another Rambo picture, it would begin with a scene at Trautman's funeral.
- It's already mentioned in the opening paragraph and is called Rambo IV: In the Serpent's Eye. FK0071a 22:32, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
The Plot Summary for Rambo IV is much, much too long. This needs to be changed. 82.169.235.240 (talk) 13:45, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] The lack of objectivity
I must admit that i'm very disappointed and can't believe how much of a subjective input was done on this page. Who says that First Blood, as you claim, "is seen" as the best of them. huh?!? Where that came from. "Is seen" by critics, by public, that's so vague and quite simply ridiculous when in fact we're dealing with a franchise that had the tremendous pop culture impact and resonance, not just one film, each Rambo film was revolutionary to some extent, in fact, Rambo 2 contributed the most to the society. Please, make some reasonable amendments before people like me start questioning the credibility of this whole page. Stay true to the facts, and not to a few opinions. Thank you very much.
[edit] Soldat reference wrong
In the computer game Soldat, the "Rambo mode" gametype gives the first player to get a kill .....(wrong)..... a bow and arrow capable of killing in one hit. .....(usually correct but still wrong)..... Other players become the "Rambo" when they kill the current "Rambo" .....(Another wrongo here)..... Players are only rewarded for fragging the Rambo. .....(Also wrong).....
I don't know why I'm putting this in discussion, maybe because I don't want to write the reference myself.
Firstly, you don't only get points for killing the rambo, that would be stupid. You mainly score points in a rambo match for killing the other people while using the rambo bow. Secondly, There are circumstances where the bow will not kill in one hit. For example, you shoot and hit someone but they are far away from where you shot from, they are wearing bullet proof vest or they have flame god power up (these don't apply in the case of exploding arrows,they kill in one hit, except for flame god). Thirdly, you don't get the bow for killing another person first at the start of the match. The bow will always be in a respawn point somewhere on the map. Nor do you get the bow instantly once you kill the previous rambo(The previous rambo drops the bow allowing anyone to pick it up)
You should play the game before you start pulling references out of nowhere. 202.150.115.150 11:40, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Isn’t a Sylvester Stallone interview relevant to this film?
I discussed this issue with the frequent editors at WikiProject_Films; please see the topic entitled “Can I post reviews and interviews as external links?” in their discussion forum. They confirmed that it is appropriate to add an external link to an interview, and that “generally any professional critic review is acceptable”.
This article currently does not contain any links to interviews with Sylvester Stallone. Please clarify your policies. Thanks. ImaGoodPerson 00:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
- The interview wasn't about Rambo. Chris Cunningham 15:37, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Afghan rambo
Is this guy worthy of a mention? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.153.199.133 (talk) 09:49, 5 February 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Indian = Native American descent?
I don't know if mine is a frequently asked doubt, but I just assumed Rambo's "Indian" from his "Indian-German" ancestry was referring to India, not to Native Americans. For me it gives more sense to the assertion "that's a hell of a combination" from the second movie.
Someone who has read the book can give more detail about it? --80.26.84.138 10:14, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Rambo is part Native American. I think Murdock's comment has to do with the legendary fighting prowess of both nationalities, as well as the general survival and tracking skills he may have learned from his American Indian relatives. CRATYLUS22
[edit] John Rambo
John Rambo should have an article on its own, as the character Rambo is notable on its own. 70.55.84.123 (talk) 05:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- Split, I agree, the chracter is alomst more well known than the actual films that he is in. Doktor Wilhelm 20:20, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Split, I agree. --P shadoh (talk) 02:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Split, it makes sense. 132.205.44.5 (talk) 04:46, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- Split, I agree --Mishobg12 (talk) 21:03, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] "Valet Parking"
The valet parking comment is derisive irrelevent injection from the poster, having no relation to the actual movie. (re: 1st sentence of first blood paragraph) Likewise further in and the reference to a "car wash". Same poster apparently made the First Blood page as well as the snide comments are continued there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.30.62.7 (talk) 22:05, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Actually, Trautman, suggests that Rambo will end up at a car wash with a tone of familiarity during the dialogue when he first arrives in Hope. At the end of the film, Rambo laments thte fact that even though he was in charge of million dolar equipment in Vietnam, in America he "can't even hold a job parking cars," presumably because of his PTSD and authority issues. CRATYLUS22
[edit] No Plot Spoiler Warning
There may need to be a plot spoiler warning in this article. I just wanted to read a synopsis of the Rambo film, and the article appears to go into great detail about the plot. I do not want to read the article any further since I have not yet seen the film. I need to be assured that there is no plot spoiler in this article.
Native94080 (talk) 08:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)Native94080
- Wikipedia guidelines discourage "spoiler" warnings. Per WP:SW :
- Spoilers on the Internet are sometimes preceded by a spoiler warning. In Wikipedia, however, it is generally expected that the subjects of our articles will be covered in detail. Therefore, Wikipedia carries no spoiler warnings except for the Content disclaimer.
- Hope that helps. --P shadoh (talk) 01:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] "Johnathon"
The user at the IP address 67.170.207.109 is constantly editing the article to say that Rambo's first name is "Johnathon". There are no sources whatsoever citing that is his first name. Please make sure this edit does not occur again.
76.19.215.204 (talk) 22:45, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- You might want take your request/suggestion to WP:RFP --P shadoh (talk) 02:00, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] "The Intruder"
how is The Intruder in the see also section related? OTher than the fact that the character in that film is called Rambu It doesn't seem related at all. It's more like Mad Max 1. 132.205.44.5 (talk) 04:47, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] References?
I would like to know where the author of the John Rambo article got his information. What references? Were they the books that David Morrell wrote? If so I will accept it as canon. Those of us who write fan fiction like to remain true to the character. Please let me know if this is canon from David Morrell. Thanks. Soquilii (talk) 02:50, 29 February 2008 (UTC)soquilii
[edit] Backstory of being in military prison?
From the article: "In the afterstory of the timeline between the first and second films, Rambo is convicted at a court-martial and remanded to a military prison where heavy duty labor is the norm. Despite being a convict, the rigid routine and discipline of prison life provides Rambo with some measure of much-needed stability, as it reminds him of his past in the military and its own rigid hierarchy."
Why would Rambo be tried at a court-martial and go to military prison when he was discharged from the military in 1974, 8 years before this movie? They would no longer have any jurisdiction over him, as he was a civilian when the crimes occured. Redjacket3827 (talk) 13:59, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Just rewatched the beginning of Rambo, First Blood Part II, he is clearly not in a military prison as 1) the guards are shown as civilians and 2) he is not in any types of military attire Redjacket3827 (talk) 21:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Army?
How could Rambo be in the Army if he was a Green Beret? Green Berets are the Marines, not the Army. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.36.69.168 (talk) 22:25, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Green beret is the army special forces. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Special_Forces (76.120.65.12 (talk) 09:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC))