Talk:Ralph Ovadal
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I have restored the Mazo Beach section on this page for the second time for the simple fact that it is the protest that Ovadal is most associated with.
The deletion of any information that could portray Ovadal negatively is also concerning.
On a related topic, can anyone confirm or deny any relation between Ralph Ovadal and Tim Ovadal who played football at the University of Wisconsin-Madison?
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I notice it is user "WisconsiniteAmerican" who routinely removes any references to Ovadal's arrest record and convictions. Those items are adequately documented, so I wonder why this particular user wants that information suppressed. - Einamozam 16:30, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Neutrality dispute
Overall, this article seems to exist to promote a positive image of Ovadal, and anything negative is routinely removed (i.e. the Mazomanie Beach protests). Also, the text of the article suggests a highly favorable POV slant, such as:
"He is known for his impassioned and caring street corner preaching in the Milwaukee area. Pastor Ovadel is one who weeps for the lost souls of men, believing that while there is life there is hope for all men. No matter how awful the behavior of a man may appear, Ralph Ovadel knows , the spirit of God can come upon the worst of offenders and a persecuting Saul can become a blessedly saved Paul."
-JakeApple 21:17, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- It seems to article has now been toned down in that it's more NPOV. I'm going to pull the neutrality dispute.
- -JakeApple 02:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
NPOV? Baloney. Why the comparison to Fred Phelps? Why even mention Phelps in this wiki entry? Whoever put it in in hates Ovadal and it doesn't take a genius to come to that conclusion. 69.129.152.139 (talk) 02:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Papal Mass
I saw this group at the Pope's Mass in Washington DC. They were vile hateful bigots. If anything the article is too generous towards Ralph. Frankly I was stunned by their ignorance about Catholicism. They were rude idiots. That's not POV, it's the truth.136.242.180.213 (talk) 18:44, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
