Talk:Rake (character)

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Contents 1 Removal of Prodigal Son from the list 2 Rake should go to the TOOL 3 Fictional Rakes 4 Proposed Move 5 Definition is too narrow 6 "Rakehell"? or not? 7 Link doesn't work 8 Is Rake gender specific?

[edit] Removal of Prodigal Son from the list

While there is no doubt that the character of the Prodigal Son, spoken of by Jesus in parable form, is young and riotous, he nevertheless does not fit the description of a Rake.

If a Rake is to be described as a young man who impregnantes a young woman and then leaves her in social and/or financial ruin, then the Prodigal Son does not fit this description. Although the young man is described as riotous and indulging himself in parties, in Jesus' parable there is no description of the man having a sexual relationship with a woman and then leaving her.

If the description of Rake in this article is broader than what has been described in the opening paragraph, and can be referred generally to riotous young men, then I will be happy to revert this change - so long as the opening paragraph is changed as well.

--One Salient Oversight 00:53, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

You are right, in that the description as it stood is mostly about a cad rather than a rake; i have expanded it a bit. -- Smerdis of Tlön 04:23, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rake should go to the TOOL

Just my opinion, but when someone looks up rake, chances are they are looking up the tool. Themindset 01:09, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

I second this. - furrykef (Talk at me) 02:55, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Indeed. If there ae no objections, I'm going to at the very least put up a disamb. page. --Matt Yeager 03:49, August 14, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fictional Rakes

Um... I never realized Lord Byron was fictional?

> He wasn't! I've moved him. Rsimmonds01 22:36, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed Move

I'd like to move this page and make Rake the disambiguation page. Any comments and/or suggestions for the new name? Was thinking Rake (drama) or Rake (character). Maybe someone who knows more about the topic could suggest something. SilentC 01:51, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Definition is too narrow

A rake need not be a fictional character. See the Shorter Oxford: "A fashionable or stylish person, esp. a man, of dissolute or promiscuous habits." In Wikipedia, Francis Dashwood (a historical figure) is described as a rake. -- Rsholmes 01:37, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Then perhaps he should be added to the list here. --Davecampbell 17:23, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Rakehell"? or not?

Initially the article says the word is a contraction of "rakehell" but later on it says this is a folk (false) etymology. 70.19.88.122 19:38, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Link doesn't work

The link at the bottom of the page to an external site doesn't work anymore. I'm trying to work out what it refered to before. Unless anyone has any objections, I'll delete it.

I've now deleted the link. DJ Lemsip 15:51, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is Rake gender specific?

After searching a few dictionaries and a quick google search, I find no mention of this term applying exclusively to men, but rather to people. The article on the other hand seems to beg to differ. Any thoughts? Ardent^†alk_∈ 23:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)