User talk:Rajankila

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Hello, Rajankila, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! --Gp75motorsports REV LIMITER 12:24, 15 January 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Great article!

Great article back there! All it needed was some section headers. Speaking of which, here's how to make them. The first thing you need to know is that there are three levels of header, each determined by how many "=" marks you put on each side of the header. Putting =text= would make the largest header, resulting in

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That's the type you usually see at the top of pages. To make a level 2: ==text==

which results in

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Now, the last one, the Level 3 header. This is the header you put up when you want to create a subsection. The syntax for this is ===text===

making

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See? It's as easy as putting down some "=" signs. --Gp75motorsports REV LIMITER 12:24, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New pages

Hello there, I see you've created four pages very quickly, with lots of content and some overlapping themes. There's a danger that these overlap so much, that one or more of them might need to be deleted or merged with the others. Can I suggest that, rather than adding lots of new pages - especially with no wikification, like this one, you work on one article to add links, catehories, images etc? There are some really helpful suggestions about drafting, improving and perfecting articles at the blue links shown. Making one article better like this will teach you much more about Wikipedia than simply pasting in text that you have prepared for other reasons. Good luck, Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 13:25, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Accountability mechanisms in local governments in Kerala

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[edit] Spam in Kerala: A Fertile Land for Decentralisation

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Decentralisation and Local Governance in Kerala

A tag has been placed on Decentralisation and Local Governance in Kerala requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Dougie WII (talk) 18:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Accountability mechanisms in local governments in Kerala

I have nominated Accountability mechanisms in local governments in Kerala, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Accountability mechanisms in local governments in Kerala. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Dougie WII (talk) 21:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Tribunal for Local Governance in Kerala : A Pioneering Initiative in Resolution of Disputes

I have nominated Tribunal for Local Governance in Kerala : A Pioneering Initiative in Resolution of Disputes, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tribunal for Local Governance in Kerala : A Pioneering Initiative in Resolution of Disputes. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Dougie WII (talk) 22:43, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Decentralisation in Kerala: Problems and Prospects

I have nominated Decentralisation in Kerala: Problems and Prospects, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Decentralisation in Kerala: Problems and Prospects. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Dougie WII (talk) 22:45, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Decentralisation Initiatives and Local Governance in Kerala

I have nominated Decentralisation Initiatives and Local Governance in Kerala, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Decentralisation Initiatives and Local Governance in Kerala. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Dougie WII (talk) 22:46, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] January 2008

Hi, the recent edit you made to Decentralization has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thanks. Cometstyles 13:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Types of decentralisation

I have nominated Types of decentralisation, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Types of decentralisation. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 10:08, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello there, I'm sorry to nominate yet another of your articles but you need to have a look at Decentralization and perhaps include this material there. When an article on a topic exists already, it is not helpful to add a new article which lagrely overlaps. I see from your contributions that you are making lots of article edits, particularly new articles, and almost no talk page edits. Talk pages are where editors discuss what they are doing and why, and resolve differences about articles and edits. I strongly suggest that you stop creating new articles, which appear to be from your own research or studies. Try editing some existing articles instead. There are some really helpful suggestions about drafting, improving and perfecting articles at the blue links shown. If you need help with working out how best to contribute, click on the bit after my signature that says (talk) Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 10:22, 23 January 2008 (UTC)|border=44CA35|icons=true|nosig=true}}

[edit] Response to email

Hello there, you sent me this email earlier today:

1 I am not a researcher, a librarian, in Kerala Institute of Local Administration. So remember that none of my write-ups are results of original research. But secondary literature, that can fit into a text book or reference book.As a librarian, my job is to gather, maintain and provide information.
2 I am a fan of Wikipedia and I wanted to create a Wikipedia for Decentralisation in India which is being decided by Ministry of Panhcayati Raj. As a much navigated site I wanted to have some pages here in Wikipedia too.
3 Meanwhile as suggested by Frederick N, a journalist of Goa, I started creating pages, probably with ignorance of editing properly.
4 I donot sign because I donot know how to sign and what to write. That is all
5 I write this mail when I got a link which I may not be able to retrieve later
6 So my need is to have a corner - a portal -for decentralisation and local governance in India /Kerala. Please help me for it
7 I am known in India as a promoter of Decentralisation particularly in the Decentralisation Community of UN Solution Exchange - an email group of 1400 persons and was the best participant in the group last year.
7 If you propose the deletion of the article Types of decentralisation, I think it is worth retaining.
8 I learn that the article must be shorter than my articles whereas m y articles are long. But they contain only points gathered from official reports such as Economic Review of Kerala government, Kerala Panchayat Raj Act and similar publication.
I want to tell you again that I am a positive person and not a manipulator
Regards,
K Rajsekharan
Librarian kerala Institute of Local Administration

I'm replying here as discussions like this are best kept public on Wikipedia: to respond, click the 'edit this page' tab at the top of this page, and place your edit under mine. If you start your paragraphs with a : symbol, they will be indented -

like this

which can make conversations easier to read.

To respond to your email: may I suggest that you start by looking through the links about drafting, improving and perfecting articles. Click on the blue link and each will take you to some very useful information. Then you could also look here at the help page for advice about how Wikipedia works, how to edit articles, source and provide references etc. As you are not familiar with Wikipedia, and I can see that English is not your first language, it might be best NOT to begin by creating large articles, but instead by making small additions to existing articles while you get the hang of how the editorial process works. There is also a tutorial here which may be helpful for the mechanics of how it all works here. Please do reply below if you need futrther help. Besyt wishes - Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 12:22, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] An offer of help

Hi there, thanks for your email this morning. I usually find it best to correspond via talk pages, so [please respond here by clicking the 'edit this page' tab at the top and placing your response under mine. That way everyone can see our conversation (and join in if necessary).

I have a suggestion and an offer to make: as you've discovered, writing an article is a lot more complicated than pasting in a large block of text! What I'd suggest is that we set up a test page in your own userspace, say at a page like User:Rajankila/drafts. You then paste in one of your articles and we work on it together to try and get it into a presentable format for the mainspace. Drafting it in your user space means it doesn't appear on the list of new pages or recent changes, so it won't get challenged for deletion - although other editors can see it if they know it's there.

I suggest trying just one article, ideally either the shortest, or the one with the fullest range of references (or just the one that interests you most). But it needs to be one with verifiable (and verified) facts, not opinions or theoretical material. Please reply below if you'd like to do this.

I have no doubt whatsoever that you're a sincere editor with a desire to edit constructively: vandals are very obvious by their editing behaviour and I can see you're not one. I realise it's disheartening to have your first contributions deleted, but I'd be very happy to help produce some articles which will stay - not least because I'm concerned about systemic bias against articles on subjects away from the English speaking world. Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 12:33, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reply by Rajankila

I am not matured enough to create full-fledged article right now. So please check the editing I had made today in Decentralisation and Empowerment and respond so that I can understand my imperfections. The first article I had posted contained only factual things like "Sun rises in the east and sets in the west"" which do not require even any citation. But it could have been provided with any number of citations too. No matter I am in the midst of the subject decentralisation and can post articles systematically later when I am more learned and technologically abled. Meantime, please watch my minor editing and advice me in case of errors. Only today I learned to use talk page and to sign. But why my sign doesn't appears as yours ? Rajankila (talk) 12:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi there, well done for figuring out the signature and also how to make wikilinks with the two square brackets. My signature look different to yours because I've customised it by clicking on the 'my preferences' link at the top of the page, then putting in an alternate signature. But until you're more experienced in Wiki markup, I suggest you don't try that right now, it can be a bit complicated! There is more information on signatures here.
As to your edits, a few immediate bits of feedback.
  1. One is that you shouldmake more use of the preview button at the bottom of the edit screen (next to the save page button). This allows you to see the effect of changes without immediately posting them to the Wiki: you can then make one big edit when you're finally happy. The reason this is a good idea is because when people look in the History of an article, your edits appear as one single one, rather than a long list of small ones and it's much easier to see who has done what.
  2. You need to make better use of the edit summaries if you can manage to: if you can summarise what changes you have made so that people can see from the History how the page has evolved, this is very helpful.
  3. I suspect that the large chunks of text you pasted into Decentralisation may be reverted by other editors, because they lack any sources or wikilinks and because you didn't discuss them on the article talk page first. In future, try discussing your planned changes before you make them, and you might also prepare a big edit in your draft page first. Then you can add references and links before you paste into the main article.
  4. The edit to Empowerment is easier to manage because it's smaller. You need to source the list that you've made, even if you think it's self-evident. Who came up with this list? Where is it from? What alternative ways are there of categorising these features? Can you insert a citation so other people can go to the source? Without these things this is just original research. I hope this makes sense: reply here if you want to discuss further. Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 13:37, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Response and querie

Hi Kim, See my referencing in Decentralisation and comment. I saved twice today as I had to refer the placing of reference list during my editing. Empowerment referencing will be done later as I have to find out that particular document from where I had copied the list for one of my articles. Rajankila (talk) 06:23, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Deepening democracy.pdf listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, Image:Deepening democracy.pdf, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. • Anakin (contribs • complaints) 01:08, 31 January 2008 (UTC)