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Contents 1 Agnikula Rajputs 1.1 Moving from Rajput page for use here 1.1.1 Prominent Rajput clans & their main centers 1.1.2 Clans of Jammu and Himachal 2 Efforts to hijack Singh article

[edit] Agnikula Rajputs

The phrase that "Agnikulas originated from fire" is not historically true. Many Rajput geneologies show that Chauhan, Manj and Bhatti were brothers and named the Rajput tribes of the same names. The myth of Agnikula originated in the times of Prithviraj Chauhan and does not have any historica background before that. خرم Khurram 16:36, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Right, so I am changing the wording to "Agnikula rajputs claim descent from the fire-god", and dispute is at an end. Dear Khurram, please let us not have dispute tags for petty reasons. ImpuMozhi 00:34, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moving from Rajput page for use here

The Rajputs are divided into 36 clans, claiming three basic lineages: the Suryavanshi (Solar Race), the Chandravanshi (Lunar Race), and the Agni vanshi (Fire Born). Some scholars also include Rishi vanshi, Nag Vanshi and Vayu Vanshi as separate classes. House of Mewar, Marwar, Amber are Suryavanshi rajputs. Rulers of Bundi, Kotah, Jalore, Sirohi are Agnivanshi. Chandravanshi and Yaduvanshi are from the same line which bifurcated at king yadu when his father banished him from becoming the king. House of Jaisalmer are yaduvanshi rajputs.

The Suryavanshi trace their lineage to the Vedic Sun -Surya(Lord Rama was also born in this lineage) Somvanshi to Som (the vedic deity Soma or Moon) and Agnivanshi orginated from fire. The Yaduvanshi trace there lineage to Lord Krishan.

Each vansha has many cula and each cula has shakha. Rathores are divided into these shakha : Dhandhul, Bhadail, Khokra, Jodha etc. Gehlote cula is subdivided into these shakhas: Aharya (at Doongarpur) , Sisodiya (at Mewar), Peeparra (at Marwar) etc. Chauhan are divided into these shakha: Hada, Kheechee, Deora, Songara etc. Similarly there are various shakha in Kacchwaha, Parihaar and rest of the 12 clans described below.

Each shakha has its Gotra Acharya, a genealogical creed, describing the essential peculiarities, religious tenets and pristine locale of the clan. It is a touchstone of affinities and guardian of the laws of intermarriage.

Twelve of 36 clans of rajputs further subdivide. These 12 are Gehlote, Parmara, Chauhan, Solanki, Rathore, Tanwar/Tomar/Tuar, BirGoojur, Parihaar, Jhala, Yadu, Katchwaha, Gor.

These 24 clans are 'Eka' and do not divide further. Sengar, Balla, Khurwur, Chawura, Dahima, Dahiya, Byce, Gherwal, Nikumpa, Dewut, Johya, Sikerwal, Dabia, Doda, Mori, Mokarra, Abhirra, Kalchoruk, Agnipala, Aswariya, Hool, Manutwal, Mallia and Chhahil.

[edit] Prominent Rajput clans & their main centers

• Suryavanshi
  • BirGoojur: Churu
    • Sikarwar: Agra
  • Jamwal: Jammu
  • Guhilote: Chittor/Udaipur
    • Aharya
    • Peeparra
    • Sisodia: Chittor/Udaipur
    • Ranawat
  • Kachwaha: Narwar/Jaipur
    • Kalyanot
    • Rajawat
    • Shekhawat
    • Jasrotia: Jasrota
  • Pundir: Pundri
  • Rathore: Marwar/Kannauj/Jodhpur/Bikaner
    • Dhandhul
    • Bhadail
    • Jodha
    • Khokra
    • Kumpawat
    • Jaitawat
    • Karnot
• Agnivanshi
  • Chauhan: Ajmer
    • Deora: Sirohi
    • Hada: Hadoti/Ranathambore
    • Bhaduria: Bhadawar
    • Sonigurra: Jalore
    • Khichi
  • Solanki: Anahilawad (Patan) Gujarat
    • Baghel
  • Paramara, Ponwar (Parmar): Mount Abu/Dhar
  • Pratihara (Parihara): Rajasthan, Kannauj
• Chandravanshi
  • Bhatti: Jaisalmer
  • Bundela: Orchha
  • Chandela: Mahoba/Khajuraho/Kalinjar
  • Chavda: Anahilwad
  • Dahia: Haryana
  • Katoch: Kangra/Himachal Pradesh
  • Jhala: Jhalavad
  • Jadeja: Gujarat
  • Banaphar: Mahoba
  • Pathania: Himachal Pradesh
  • Tomar/Tanwar: U.P., Haryana, Madya Pradesh, Rajasthan

[edit] Clans of Jammu and Himachal

Rajput clans in Jammu and Himachal Pradesh: Jaswal, Chambial, Mankotia, Sambial, Guleria, Dadwal, Jamwal, Chib, Katoch, Suketia, Kutlehria, Baloria, Charak, Bandral, Kahluria etc. [source: History and Culture of Himalayan States by Professor Sukhdev Singh Charak]

[edit] Efforts to hijack Singh article

Editors of this Rajput article are requested to work on the article Singh, as some people are making constant effort to hijack the article and keep it only for Sikhs saying that provide reference if Singh is a Rajput common name, they keep erasing reference that Sing is a Rajput name at all. They keep proving that Singh is a Sikh name only. I suspect these are foreign editors who have no idea what they are talking about obviously.

See this version of the article that erases all reference that Singh is a common name used by Rajputs: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Singh&oldid=153438525 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atulsnischal (talk • contribs) 06:10, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

Kindly provide a lot of references and facts that Singh is a Rajput name and also provide how many Rajputs may be using it as a middle or as the last name because I know Rajputs who migrated outside Rajasthan to other states many hundred years ago have lost touch and now use it now as their last name.

Kindly help to work on Singh article when you all get some time, Thanks

Atulsnischal 06:00, 25 August 2007 (UTC)