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Contents 1 January 2008 1.1 WikiProject Skyscrapers and building lists 1.2 LOTD exposure 1.3 More images 1.4 T:DYK. 1.5 WikiProject Good Articles January Newsletter 1.6 Notice 1.7 List of tallest buildings in New Orleans 1.8 WP:LOTD 1.9 Hey again 1.10 RE:Welcome! 1.11 WikiProject Dubai Tasks

January 2008

WikiProject Skyscrapers and building lists

I have a question regarding skyscraper templates for individual cities (more specifically Template:Dubai skyscrapers). When do skyscrapers listed on Template:Future Dubai skyscrapers move to their completed counterpart? Once thay become topped-out, or when they are complete? Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 02:28, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. I will go ahead and do that right now. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 02:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

LOTD exposure

We are running into problems getting the lists on WP:FC. I don't think we should repropose this idea for the main page until we are getting at least 20-25 active participants/month. I don't know if you have any thoughts that would be relevant on the issue. There is a debate at Portal_talk:Featured_content#List_of_the_Day.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 19:04, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

More images

Have you ever thought of using {{triple image}} so that you can get more images in your lists? I just beefed up Prairie Avenue with triple and double image templates and it is pretty useful.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 19:17, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I think if you did something the following might help you show pictures of almost all the buildings:--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 05:36, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

T:DYK.

Did you know? was updated. On 2 January 2008, a fact from the article List of tallest buildings in Tulsa, which you recently nominated, was featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

On 2 January 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article List of tallest buildings in Tulsa, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Congratulations! · AndonicO ^Talk 20:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

On 3 January 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Society for Savings Building, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

And here's one more for your collection!--JayHenry (talk) 03:03, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles January Newsletter

Happy New Year! Here is the latest edition of the WikiProject GA Newsletter! Dr. Cash (talk) 04:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

The Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles Newsletter

The WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter Volume I, No. 3 - January 2008 December issue | February issue Project News There are now 3,301 Good Articles listed at WP:GA. With 1,789 current featured articles, that brings the total of good and featured articles to 5,090! The most recently promoted articles are: Hurricane Daniel (2006), Tarbosaurus, The Murders in the Rue Morgue, Wicca, Seth MacFarlane, Stanley Internment Camp, Hurricane Karen (2007), Interstate 155 (Illinois), Tropical Storm Ingrid (2007), Brian Sings and Swings, Winston Churchill, Mzoli's, John Kefalas, and Elizabeth Cady Stanton. The backlog at Good Article Nominations has recently exploded to 236 unreviewed articles! Out of 264 total nominations, 17 are on hold, 10 are under review, and one is seeking a second opinion. Please go to WP:GAN and review an article or three as soon as you have a chance! The oldest unreviewed articles are: Attachment disorder, Byzantium under the Palaiologoi, Byzantium under the Angeloi, Wowowee, Tyrone Wheatley, Mina (singer), Jon Burge, Mercury Hayes, William Lowndes Yancey, and Toni Preckwinkle. The top five categories with the largest backlogs are: Sports and recreation (47 articles), Film and cinema (25 articles), Television and journalism (16 articles), Art and architecture (15 articles), and Politics and government (14 articles). The backlog at Good Article Reassessment currently stands at 17 articles up for re-review. If every participant of WikiProject Good Articles could review just one article in the next week, the backlog would be almost eliminated! Reviewer of the Month Dihydrogen Monoxide is the GAN Reviewer of the Month of December, based on the assessments made by Epbr123 of the number and thoroughness of the reviews made by individual reviewers each week. Dihydrogen Monoxide hails from Brisbane (which, incidentally, is almost a GA, kids ;)) and has been editing Wikipedia since August 2006. He mostly likes to review articles relating to music, Australia, or anything else that takes his fancy! He also has two articles waiting, and notes that there's still a huge backlog,... so get cracking! Other outstanding reviewers recognized during the month of December include: Awadewit (talk · contribs) Canadian Paul (talk · contribs) Derek.cashman (talk · contribs) Drewcifer3000 (talk · contribs) Elcobbola (talk · contribs) Jackyd101 (talk · contribs) Kane5187 (talk · contribs) M3tal H3ad (talk · contribs) Nehrams2020 (talk · contribs) The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) VanTucky (talk · contribs) Wassupwestcoast (talk · contribs) Member News There are now 166 members of WikiProject Good Articles! Welcome to the 7 new members that joined during the month of December: Majoreditor (talk · contribs) Bernstein2291 (talk · contribs) The4325 (talk · contribs) Pepsi2786 (talk · contribs) Monowi (talk · contribs) Rankun (talk · contribs) This WikiProject, and the Good Article program as a whole, would not be where it is today without each and every one of its members! Thank you to all! GAReview Template Lots of you that frequent WP:GAN have undoubtedly seen the articles under review, marked with "Review - I am reviewing this article. ...". The articles have been marked as being under review by an editor using the {{GAReview}} template. The purpose of this template is essentially to prevent two editors from reviewing the same article at the same time, so it's essentially a common courtesy notice to other editors so that they don't pass or fail an article while you're in the midst of collecting and writing comments. However, just because an article is marked, shouldn't preclude another editor from contributing to the review. If you'd like to review it, go ahead; simply collect your comments and write them down on the article's talk page – but don't pass or fail the article – leave that to the other reviewer. To use this template yourself, simply write "#:{{GAReview}} ~~~~" on the line immediately following the article's nomination at WP:GAN. You can even leave additional comments as well (e.g. "#:{{GAReview}} I will finish my review in the next 24 hours. ~~~~"). Reviewers marking articles with this template should also observe some common etiquette; please don't mark more than 1-3 articles as being under review at a time, and please try and finish your review within 3-5 days of marking the article. GA Sweeps After openly requesting the community for more participants into the Sweeps, we have 3 more members on the board. They are (in no particular order) Canadian Paul, VanTucky, and Masem. Canadian Paul will be sweeping "Middle East and the World" articles. VanTucky will be sweeping "Religion, mysticism, and mythology" and "Literature" articles. Masem will be sweeping "Television episodes". We're still looking for more reviewers. Interested individuals should contact OhanaUnited for details. At this moment, participation in the sweeps project is by invitation only, as we desire experienced reviewers who have a thorough and extensive knowledge of the criteria. This is to ensure that articles that have "fallen through the cracks" would be found and removed, and that additional articles don't fall through the cracks during the sweep. Currently, there are 16 members working on the project, and we have reviewed 74 articles in December 2007. Of those that are swept, 275 articles are kept as GA, 126 articles are delisted, and 5 promoted to FA. Did You Know,... ... that the total number of good and featured articles is now over 5000? ... that GA was formed on October 11, 2005 and was formerly called "Half-decent articles"? ... that there is a bot (StatisticianBot) that gives a daily report on GAN? ... that many discussions were made over the years on whether GA should have a symbol placed on the main article space, yet at the end always removed? ... that there was a proposal to change the GA symbol to a green featured star? From the Editors Happy New Year, everyone! I'm just filling in for Dr. Cash as he's busy (or away) in real life. This explains why I wasn't prepared for a full-length article on GA process, and instead I resort to a tiny DYK for GA. OhanaUnited Happy New Year as well! I'm still here, and haven't totally disappeared. I had to cut back on editing and reviewing during the month of December as I made the transition from Flagstaff, Arizona to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. But I should be about settled in the Keystone State, so I'll be contributing more to Wikipedia again in the new year. Thanks to OhanaUnited for putting together much of the content for this newsletter! He's been working hard with the Sweeps, and the 'Did You Know' section is also a great idea, so I think that will become a regular feature now! I also figured out how to have a collapsible newsletter, so that will change our delivery options a bit. Cheers! Dr. Cash Contributors to this Issue Dr. Cash (Lead Editor, Distributor) OhanaUnited (GA Sweeps correspondent) Improving Wikipedia one article at a time since 2005! WikiProject Good Articles: Open Tasks This project identifies, organizes and improves good articles on Wikipedia. Nominations: Choctaw • One Night Stand (2007) • Impalement arts • Backlash (2007) • Sam Cowan Reassessment: Madonna (entertainer) • Sweeps / List: references (All Categories), image tags (All Categories), article quality (All Categories) Possible GAs Needing References: Clarinet • Carleton University • Appalachian Mountains Task forces: Project quality • Unreferenced GA Good article criteria | Statistics | GAN Report | Changes log Nominations queue: 214 articles (45 of them are on hold) as of 08:00, 10 June 2008 | edit

Notice

Raime, I am sorry. But I am going to be selfish and rude in this message. On 22 December I left you a message, here on your talk page. You have not responded yet. I do not know if you never noticed it, forgot about it, or just did not want to respond. It has been two weeks, and I am interested to know what your response is. All I would like is a reply; even a two word answer would be satisfactory.
Sorry for being so rude. Thank you for your time and for understanding. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 07:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for creating the Dubai proposal. I am just interested to know how long it usually takes for 5 to 10 people to add their names. Should I leave a message on some users' talk pages that I feel might be interested in a WikiProject Dubai? And sorry again for my rude message. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 18:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I think we should go ahead with the Dubai proposal, despite the creation of the UAE work group. Even though there is a WikiProject England, there is still a WikiProject London. I see no problem with the co-existence of a WikiProject Dubai and a UAE work group. And what does "IMHO" stand for? Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 21:47, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

So far I have created four building articles (three for New York and one for Chicago). Before I continue, I would like you to have a look at them. I am interested to know if they meet the specifications that WikiProject Skyscrapers wants, and to know if I should continue with the same format. The first three articles are Bertelsmann Building, Continental Center I and Times Square Tower. I also created General Motors Building (New York), but that has since been expanded greatly by another user. Thank you. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 00:29, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for those pointers. I will try to remember them. And yes, I do think it is a good idea to create a user sub-page for the WikiProject Dubai. Just let me know if there is anyting I can do to help. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 20:44, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

List of tallest buildings in New Orleans

I took a lot of pictures from the Hilton New Orleans skydeck that may help many of the articles in the List of tallest buildings in New Orleans. I will try to get them posted this week. I will not recognize all the buildings though.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 02:28, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I am not sure how to label some of the pictures I want to post because I don't know the names of the buildings. Can I email them to you so you can help me?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 23:37, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

My first picture is up at Image:2008-01-05 Sheraton New Orleans.JPG. I will post others as I can recognize the buildings and have time. A few more should be added today. I apologize, but your list finished 7th with me personally at WP:LOTD. I was wondering about city tallest building lists. It seems almost every article has at least one picture. Has there been any discussion about including a picture in the table for each building. Have you considered the triple image suggestion for the right side if not because that would also accomodate a picture for almost every building.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 15:37, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I posted with VerruckteDan. You may want to see them (the last one is a crop for a redlink):

				This image is a candidate for speedy deletion. It may be deleted after {{subst:#time:l, j F Y| + 7 days}}.	This image is a candidate for speedy deletion. It may be deleted after {{subst:#time:l, j F Y| + 7 days}}.
This image is a candidate for speedy deletion. It may be deleted after {{subst:#time:l, j F Y| + 7 days}}.

WP:LOTD

In the last month, you have created a new WP:FL. You are a veteran and have produced others in the past. Congratulations! I also see you have nominated an LOTDC this month. This is your official reminder that your votes are needed. Please participate in the voting.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 22:22, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Only three days left.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 21:08, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for participating in the WP:LOTD. Your nominee List of tallest buildings in San Francisco has been selected to be a February WP:LOTD. If you have any particular date preferences please contact me by January 24th. Note that since it finished in the top six will appear twice as a WP:LOTD during the month.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 16:12, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey again

As you might have noticed, I got a bit tired of creating new building lists, especially after six long lists in China. So I decided to do something else, Hydro-Québec's electricity transmission system, with hopes of bringing that article to FA-status. However, I think the article needs several more pictures of the power transmission lines and I decided to ask you since you live in the Northeast United States close to Quebec. Here are the specific transmission lines: New York Power Authority's AC (alternating current) 765 kV line in northern New York State near Marcy, the +/- 450 kV Quebec - New England HVDC (high-voltage direct current) Transmission line near Ayer, Massachusetts (north of Boston) and/or near Monroe, New Hampshire, and Hydro-Québec TransÉnergie's AC 735 kV power lines around Montreal, Quebec City, and the South Shore region of Québec. Do you think you can take pictures of these lines? Cheers. _{Trance addict} 08:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and it would also be nice if you or you know somebody that has pictures of damaged power lines (in Québec and/or New England} from the 1998 Ice Storm which occurred 10 years ago. Cheers. _{Trance addict} 10:30, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Dubai

Wikipedia sure could use a project like this, I took a look at many of the Dubai articles and they were appalling. A significant number of articles has one (or more) of the following problem(s): POV, unencyclopedic content, un-wikified material, unreferenced, unchecked vandalism, orphan, out of date, and spam / advertising. Just so you know.

Building lists

I think we should stop creating new building lists in the US. Although I IDed more cities for list creation in the past, I have now decided many of those cities in the box don't deserve building lists, as they don't contain a lot of notable buildings and / or tall highrises as well. If we continue to create new building lists, I say pick a city somewhere else besides the US, like Panama City. The US is getting quite dry in terms of new building list(s) possibilities.

And can you please answer the first question above? Or is electrical infrastructure not one of your interests? Thanks. Cheers. _{Trance addict} 07:42, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Reply....

I think this image is better than the night time one. As for the new lists, let's hold off on them until we become 'un-bored' of creating lists. If we should work on the lists, let's focus on the existing ones. I think both the London and Paris lists need reformatting. The way they are right now looks pretty reader-unfriendly and both lists need more unreferences. Oh, and some advice for taking that photo of the +/- 450 kV Hydro-Quebec HVDC line near Ayer, I suspect the Sandy Pond terminal (substation) is a sensitive area, that is, it is an area where public photography is prohibited. This is because the HVDC terminal is blurred out on Google Earth images. And if you don't know what a +/- 450 kV HVDC line looks like, here (the line that carries only two conductors, not three, as with the AC 230 kV power lines).

Directions.....

I think to get to Ayer (directly from Providence), take I-95 north to I-495 and take go west-northwest on I-495 (Exit 6B on Microsoft Virtual Earth or clockwise, as I-495 forms an arc facing east). Go on I-495 until you reach Littleton Common (near Ayer). Then take the exit (Exit 31 on Microsoft Virtual Earth) there and get onto State Route 119. On State Route 119, head northwest (turn right, not left, don't go into Littleton Common). Heading northwest, past the Sandy Point Road and Forge Village Road junction, you will encounter the HVDC line at the junction of Gay Road and Prescott Street. Get off State Route 119 there (turn right) and go onto Gay Road. Cheers. _{Trance addict} 23:57, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Dubai building article 'spam'

I agree as well; I think there are too many stub-articles about individual buildings / projects in Dubai, which made tagging a bit more prolonged. For the time being, I think we should consolidate all the information contained in those stubs into the building complex article. This here is example article about a complex in Hong Kong containing five buildings. I think, for Dubai, the building complex article should not have sections labelled "XYZ Tower I, XYZ Tower II, etc. Instead, the article should describe the complex in general, not the individual buildings. The individual building articles should be changed into a redirect of the building complex article, not deleted. The same goes for the talk page, but just delete the tag. Right now, there are both building complex and individual building articles; this may explain why there is a delete-no delete war because of notability reasons. Cheers. _{Trance addict} 05:14, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

It would we wise to condense the articles into their respective complexes. But, like Hydrogen Iodide said, the article for the developments should only describe the development. You mentioned Jumeirah Lake Towers (JLT). All buildings in the complex are grouped into clusters of three. We could create one article for each cluster instead of a different article for each tower. That would decrease the number of articles for towers in JLT by about a third (if we have an article for each tower, but I do not think that is the case). Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 06:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Coordinates

Do you think we should add coordinates to Dubai and skyscraper articles so that a link to that article appears on Google Earth? It could increase the number of people who view the article. Cheers. _{Trance addict} 04:53, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

I used Google Earth to locate some buildings in Dubai, Hong Kong, Oakland and SF. However, this task may be very hard / impossible to do if the article does not have a picture and / or states the location (or Emporis for the buildings). It may be best to consult a local Wikipedian in whatever region that you are trying to add coordinates to. Take a look at this discussion for more info. Cheers. _{Trance addict} 05:22, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

RE:Welcome!

Thank you for welcoming me into the family! Please do drop me a line anytime if you need any particular assistance from the other side of the planet. ;)--Huaiwei (talk) 02:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Dubai Tasks

Raime, what else needs to be done to set up the WikiProject Dubai? Since I have never helped to create a WikiProject like you have, I hope you can give me a few pointers. How long does this whole process take? What needs to be created? How do we decide on the importance scale, etc.? Thank you. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 01:47, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay thank you. I will try to create some of the things you listed when I can find time (this will most likely be Friday). But I may or may not be able to make one or two things tonight. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 03:30, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

So far, I have created Template:User WikiProject Dubai, Category:WikiProject Dubai members, Template:Dubai category, Template:Dubai image, Template:Dubai project and Template:Dubai template. Let me know if there is something that I need to fix. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 04:42, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean by "anything else on the project page?" I do not know much about WikiProjects. You co-founded WikiProject Architecture and WikiProject Skyscrapers, so you have more experience with these types of things than I do. What types of things usually come up during or shortly after the creation of a project that we may be able to address now?

And should I add {{WikiProject Dubai Welcome}} to WP:DUBAI participants' talk pages to inform them that the Project is now on the mainspace? Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 06:51, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

When looking at the Project page, everything looks good. I agree with the creation of an Article Collaboration and Improvement Drive. When you proposed the creation of WP:DUBAI I was very happy. I knew that the project would greatly improve many of the articles, and an ACID is just what is needed. I also think that a template page would be a good way to access the templates when we need them, instead of fishing throughout Category:WikiProject Dubai for them. Should I also create a stub template for WP:DUBAI, such as {{Engineering-stub}}, or is just {{WikiProject Dubai}} okay? And what about an "articles by quality" template such as Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Skyscraper articles by quality statistics?

And sorry, my mistake. I must have switched WikiProject Architecture for WikiProject Engineering. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 19:00, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Your organization for stubs sounds good to me. For the ACID, should we work on an article that is (I feel) of top importance but is only a stub? But before that, how will we choose the importance of articles? I have been thinking about that, and I seem to think that a lot of them are important. Isn't importance an opinion? So how will we organize that? And I may not be the person to choose importance because I might be a little biased. How is importance chosen at other WikiProjects? Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 19:55, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

How would we classify Dubai Creek, Bur Dubai, Deira, Dubai, and Al Shindagha on the importance scale. Dubai would not exist were it not for Dubai Creek. And at one time, Bur Dubai, Deira, and Al Shindagha were the only areas of Dubai. This is where the city began, hence extremely important for the city. They are also the articles I think deserve a lot of attention. How do they sound for the ACID? Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 21:00, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Doing two articles at a time for the ACID seems good to me. And I agree with the split of the malls from the landmarks template. I will do that right now. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 21:24, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

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