Talk:Railways in Melbourne

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Assessment comments The following comments were left by the assessors: (edit · history · watch · refresh) Contents 1 Railway Viaduct - Flinders Street to Spencer Street Stations 2 New pic of Armadale station 3 Move to Metlink 4 Remove line histories 5 Google Earth rail overlay 6 Proposed policy on public transport 7 Comeng Refurbishment 8 Branches of lines 9 Network Map [edit] Railway Viaduct - Flinders Street to Spencer Street Stations Under the heading, "Expansion into the Suburbs" (para. 4) A sentence starts, "Between 1889 a two-line viaduct ..." Under the heading, "Eastern suburban lines" (para. 4) A sentence ends, "... the Spencer Street - Flinders Street viaduct opened in 1892." I suggest that the latter date be included in the former statement. Can any editor state when the viaduct was electrified? I presume it was about 1919 in conjunction with electrification of the Broadmeadows line to Essendon, as stated under the heading, "Northern suburban lines". SekotsSemaj 08:02, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] New pic of Armadale station

Correctly speaking isn't this on the Caulfield line as per the loop designation (until recently)? It could be called the Frankston line just as easily.

[edit] Move to Metlink

I don't think this article should have been moved to Metlink Melbourne, Metlink refers to the entire public transport system including trams and buses and this article contains a great deal of history predating Metlink. I recommend it be changed back to Railways in Melbourne and Metlink Melbourne redirected to Metlink. --Canley 14:42, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree 100%. Lokicarbis 15:03, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Furthermore, Metlink is the company that runs the public transport system, whereas this article is about the railway network, the infrastructure. It's a completely separate topic. --bainer (talk) 04:32, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Related to the above, to the unfamiliar, the infobox reads as though Metlink began in 1854, which is not true. --ozzmosis 07:24, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I've subsequently removed most of the Metlink references. Connex is the railway operator anyway, not Metlink. [[1]] --ozzmosis 07:42, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Remove line histories

I think that most of the information under "Southeastern suburban lines", etc., should be removed to the articles for each line, and just general or summary statements left in this article. Agreed? Philip J. Rayment 13:01, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

There being no objection, I'll probably start doing this in the next few days. Philip J. Rayment 14:41, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't necessarily remove it all, as without some history it risks becoming an article of interest mainly to gunzels. What might be a more effective means of conveying the section would be to do it chronologically and cut out the unnecessary detail to provide for a unified history of the network, instead of a series of small line histories. Rebecca 12:50, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I intended to leave some history of the network as a whole, as distinct from individual line histories. Things like the start of the network, electrification, privatisation, etc. Philip J. Rayment 14:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Good idea --Grahamec 02:33, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

I've got a bit distracted on other things, but I am slowly working my way through putting these on the individual lines. Once I've finished all the lines, I'll amend this article. Philip J. Rayment 02:52, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Rewritten - by time not line. I have added details on when new trains entered service, a bit of the changing operators, and why lines got built or extended. Wongm 07:10, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Google Earth rail overlay

I've created a Google Earth overlay of the greater metro Melbourne railways. I would like to have a link to this added to the External Links section of this article, as I believe it greatly expands the potential impact and provides a detailed visual representation of some of the information. I'd like someone to decide if it fits or not, and if so, add it.

http://www.johnshadbolt.com/ged/#melbMetro

Thanks, JohnnoShadbolt 12:23, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

That has to be at least as relevant as 'Fully packed train during rush hour'. Added. timg231 03:19, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed policy on public transport

Please see User:Mangoe/Wikipedia_is_not_a_timetable for a proposed policy on public transport. Josh Parris#: 01:33, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Culled it right down - if you want to know about timetables - go to the Connex website! Now it just mentions loop - vs - direct trains and such - no times. Wongm 07:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comeng Refurbishment

I don't see the logic in having the M>train name on the Comeng refurbishment summery, M>Train no longer exist, I see this as fit by Connex having the trains refurbished. Adrian90 10:06, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

The M>Train refurbishments we caried out by that company when they were still around, and differed from those undertaken by Connex to their trains - they were done by different contractors, and the additions made to the trains meant the two types were not not able to run together. Wongm 06:29, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Branches of lines

At the present time, the smaller stubs of lines from bigger ones are treated as branches off the main one. For example, the Hurstbridge line branching off the Epping, stations between the city and Clifton Hill belong to one line, not the other. The rails do happen to treat the lines in this way, to to the layperson the stations before Clifton Hill are shared by both lines. (Stony Point, Williamstown and Alamein would be exceptions - operated as shuttles)

Who thinks 'common' stations between lines should be common between line articles? I think they should be shared. Wongm 10:33, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Agreed 124.190.196.150 (talk) 08:27, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I also agree. Rebecca (talk) 08:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Network Map

I don't know who is responsible for the Melbourne railway network map however it appears that Reservoir is spelled incorrectly. On the diagram it is spelled as Resevoir with an "r" missing. NewAust (talk) 11:56, 21 December 2007 (UTC)