User talk:Rahennig

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Dark and Shattered Lands

A tag has been placed on Dark and Shattered Lands, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read our the guidelines on spam as well as the Wikipedia:Business' FAQ for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Excirial (Talk,Contribs) 17:10, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dark and Shattered Lands

I got your message on my talk page about the Dark and Shattered Lands speedy deletion, I'm trying to make it as encyclopedic as possible, as opposed to sounding like advertising, and I will remove anything you ask me to in order to fit in with the Wikipedia standards. I may need some time to make changes, but I will try to get them in there ASAP if you will give me a chance with this. --Rahennig (talk) 17:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, its certainly clear that you want to improve this article, so here is a small list of what i think should be changed. (Note: Im not in charge of deletion, im just tagging articles for admin attention)
  • Notability
In order to be on Wikipedia, each article needs a certain amount of notability, or rather: a reason why the article is inportant enough to stay around. The rulings for websites can be found here. Make sure the article meets the set guidelines.
  • References
Any notability claim should be referenced with external sources, such as website links, directions to external articles and so on. All these references should be establisched third party sources that have a certain (Lets call it notability) themself. For example: The NYtimes is notable, mywebsite.tripod.com and such are not. The rulings can be found here
Other then that: Good luck with the article! Its a lot better to have one good article around, then removing a bad one. Excirial (Talk,Contribs) 17:24, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. What about WP:ORG? I was also referencing WP:WEB (I think that's the one) and although it discourages USENET, it did make an exception with respect to those regarded as experts. I also noticed that awards were also criteria for notability. I will try to add sources as much as possible as I improve the page, so that it can tie in with MUD history in general, past and current.

Dark and Shattered Lands falls more in the WP:WEB section then in the WP:GROUP section. The article's focus is more about interactive web content, then it is about a product or a group of people. Granted, i think this is a faitly gray zone with some overlap, as arguing that the website delivers a product is just as valid.
For the entire matter this difference is luckily quite trivial, as the requirements for the article are fairly (if not completely) identical. The website should claim some form of importance(A reason why it should have an article), and then back it up with reliable sources(Anything that has some sort of notability itsself).
On the awards:
Make sure it are major awards from recognized sources. An "Best Game" award from major PC magazines and websites (PCGamer, IGN) are quite likely to be valid, but awards from websites that are not major (MyMultiplayergame.tripod.org, SiteYouNeverHeardOf.com) are not valid sources. Excirial (Talk,Contribs) 18:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)