Talk:Radha Soami Satsang Beas

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[edit] Initial Article

I started this article so that people interested in RSSB can create a proper article instead of changing the Sant Mat article to look like RSSB is Sant Mat, when most of the objective activity (books, Gurus, disciples) have long ago abandoned the Beas line. David C. Lane has additional information on this lineage, as he was an initiate of a Beas Guru named Charan Singh (guru).

I think you are mixing SANT MAT with religions like HINDUISM , SIKHISM Our master teaches us the path of sant mat and how to reach the ultimate goal of life which is nothing but to unite with the master.

And we never profess ourselves to be sikhs. So, I think one should not use a term like religion this mat.

Thank You Kushagra Behl

≥==Why only one sided view on this page== This is wikipedia and not RSSB's official newsletter. Why is that every time somebody posts any controversy related to RSSB, it is deleted from this page? Are we trying to make this page an official propaganda (or newsletter) of RSSB? There are ex-followers, who followed this faith for more than 30 years and now left this faith as they got disillusioned. In the free spirit of wikipedia, don't they have a say on this page? Or this sect is scared that posting controversies will effect their membership.

Thanks, Sapient

I have not been involved here, and know little of the particular subject, but in the general area of minority religions on Wikipedia I understand that there is a problem with the testimony of both acolytes and apostates. Re the apostates, I feel personally sympathetic, but it seems that when someone has committed themselves passionately to a group, its beliefs or its leader, then he/she loses that commitment, there is nearly always an equally passionate and sincere reversal of loyalty. Perhaps it takes many years for the pendulum to centre itself, perhaps it never happens, but what is required on Wikipedia is neutral, scholarly appraisal, which they are unlikely to provide. Mixing pro and anti sentiments in the article does not achieve this either, it resembles schizophrenia, and the two factions will fight to the death on the Discussion pages. If there are not enough unbiased scholars who have looked at the subject then the Wiki article should probably be reduced, by consent of all involved, to a very short form (a stub.) Then get on with something more constructive in your lives. Rumiton 13:38, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your opinion Rumiton. But the whole idea of wikipedia is to get complete knowledge about a subject whether its good or bad; Subjects can be controversial and people might have different point of views. I am not trying to suppress a person's belief or his ideology about any certain sect but in the free spirit of wikipedia presenting the sect from the eyes of people who thinks this sect is a cult.

Forget about editing the main page, can you imagine that even my question (which you replied) was deleted from the 'discussion section'. I have just added it back. These things show that someone is deliberately trying to hide information and doesn't want others to read about it.

[edit] It should not be merged with Radhasoami section

Actually Radhasoami Name and this faith originally started in Agra by Soamiji maharaj in 1861. Later on after his departure, various sects emerged each claiming themselves the original one.Radhasoami satsang Beas is one of them. I think people should get all information about various sects under radhasoami name, their point of views, their ideologies and differences.But merging section Radhasoami with section Radhasoami satsang Beas will not be right and will hide important information from the viewers.I feel both two section should go ahead as well as others such as Radhasoami Satsang Soami Bagh,Agra,Radhasoami Satsang Dayal Bagh,Agra

Premshrivastava (talk) 15:33, 14 February 2008 (UTC)