Talk:Radagast (Middle-earth)

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[edit] White Council

The article incorrectly states that Radagast was a member of the White Council. In fact the Silmarillion lists the members: Elrond, Galadriel, Cirdan and other Lords of the Eldar, Mithrandir (Gandalf) and Curunir (Saruman) - no mention of Radagast. As Saruman's companion he gave him aid in his role on the Council, but he was not himself a member. I'm going to amend the article to reflect this. Considering he was a wizard his omission might seem strange, but the picture Tolkien paints is of a wizard with considerably less powers than Gandalf or Saruman and one with no understanding of politics or war. Clearly it was felt he wouldn't have been much use on the Council. Neelmack (talk) 20:55, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I think a more likely explanation is that the compressed account in the Silmarillion was based on writing done before Radagast's role in LOTR was written or envisioned. He was excluded from the list because he didn't really exist (apart from the reference in 'The Hobbit') when the initial conceptualization of the White Council was formulated. I agree that he shouldn't be referred to as a member of the Council since it is nowhere stated that he was. I can't recall Tolkien addressing this in any of his "letters." But I'd wager that after LOTR was published, Tolkien probably considered Radagast a minor member of the Council.169.253.4.21 (talk) 16:23, 13 May 2008 (UTC)TexxasFinn

[edit] Radagast in adaptations

I interpreted the associations as:

  • Radagast commanded the moon moth, as Radagast's background with wild (particularly winged) creatures and association with Yavanna indicate he may have had such capabilities; and of course his close friendship with Gandolf might indicate that he would use a small (difficult to detect) creature to keep watch over his friend. Sure enough, such a small creature just happens to appear in Gandalf's time of need. I believe the moth was operating for Radagast rather than being Radagast himself, as one would think Saruman would be able to detect another wizard's presence.
  • The Eagles, associated with Manwë, would have likely been independent actors whom agreed to assist after being notified by Radagast/moth.

Any thoughts? --Thisisbossi 06:40, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you need to read the books. There is no "moon moth," that's just a device in the films; a rather lame one too, I might add. I really doubt Jackson and company gave it antwhere near as much thought as you suggest. It's just a plot device they thought would be cool. 169.253.4.21 (talk) 16:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)TexxasFinn

[edit] Anglo-Saxon

The article says that "the name Radagast may actually be Anglo-Saxon". This doesn't make much sense to me; the statement in UT makes it clear that the name Radagast is ("actually") Adunaic. Considering this and the rather dubious nature of the speculation (rad = rudu is a bit of a stretch) I suggest that this paragraph be deleted. Aiwendil42

Curiously enough, there is a Slavic god with an identical name. --217.172.29.4 (talk) 13:26, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Moon moth.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:27, 2 January 2008 (UTC)