Talk:Racism in the People's Republic of China

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[edit] Reverse Racism

No doubt that there are racism in China, but it is a lesser issue than an economic, or regional discrimination. Heck, people from Shanghai would discriminate anyone who is not from Shanghai, likewise in Beijing. Westerners usually cannot perceive this because of their race, since there is a reverse racism against Chinese (i.e. prior 1990s since Opium war, there was reverse racism among some Chinese who regard Chinese civilization as inferior. Fortunately, such view has since been reversed).

The fundamental problem for racism, particularly in case of Tibet, is oftentimes a political issue ^[1] to contain and smear the PRC government. For this reason, I put the reverse racism section here to point out the efforts by the PRC government to improve the educations and economic growth in ethnic regions. Of course, there are people who like the old ways (btw, Tibet prior 1950 was a slavery society, and suddenly Dalai Lama started to talk about democracy being an exile) and refuse to be modernized. Then again, the government would be criticized for increasing the economic gap between ethnic minorities and Han Chinese (which is really not a race, but a collection of people from diverse origins and races). It seems no matter what PRC government tries to do, it is criticized.

Tibetan exiles, for example, criticized the PRC government for building rail roads in Tibet, without mentioning that only transportations could possibly bring much need aids (the PRC government spends hundreds of millions of dollars each year to Tibet) such as food and medicine, and without mentioning the fact that due to the high percentage of Tibetan monks (which are paid wages by PRC government), the region cannot be self-sustained without aids. Coconut99 99 (talk) 22:13, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

I removed the section about reverse-racism because this article is about racism and not about affirmative action. Furthermore, Wikipedia is not a soapbox, and not the place to talk about those ungrateful Tibetans who refuse to acknowledge the generosity of the PR China government. Novidmarana (talk) 21:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

No, reverse racism talked about here is that non-ethnics get treated as secondary class citizens in the local autonomous region, which is also a form a racism. Also, affirmative actions is very much related to racism. Coconut99 99 (talk) 23:01, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

This article is about racism and not concepts that are only related to racism. Your claim that non-ethnics are treated as secondary class citizens, and that this is also a form of racism is your POV and hence should not be included as long as there are no reliable sources for this claim. And lastly, to be frank, the section as it stands is bull. Maybe this is the view of the Chinese government that everything is hunky dory, but then it should be made clear that it is just their view. Novidmarana (talk) 23:33, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

You should check the references first, the view that the PRC government causes reverse racism isn't coming from the PRC government, but critics of the PRC government racial policy. It is your POV that removes this section. Coconut99 99 (talk) 03:41, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Can you cite the source where the view is by critics of the governments racial policy. If not I assume that it is YOUR POV. Oiboy77 (talk) 17:05, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tibet

The section introduced on Tibet has nothing to do with racism. It is about human rights abuses and was removed from another article without consensus. Human rights abuses are not appropriate here, unless text and sources can be provided to show discrimination based on race. I don't see that with what Skyfiler introduced, though if someone wants to come up with something different it would be interesting to see. John Smith's (talk) 16:44, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gweilo

I have reverted the change that said it is no longer derogatory. That's very much a subjective thing, and I would say that it is still an insult. If editors are of the opinion that it is not seen to be offensive then I think we would need much more discussion here backed up by some detailed sources. Also it can still be used offensively, even if some foreigners don't mind it. John Smith's (talk) 12:01, 7 June 2008 (UTC)