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[edit] Misc

Would anyone mind terribly if i edited this a bit so that it corresponds with the rest of the Friends characters?

--Crestville 13:25, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC) Jobe

Anyone can edit anything - you don't need permission. Secretlondon 13:27, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, but I think it would be a little unfair on whoever created the thing for me to just jump in and start editing it to match the work I've done.

--Crestville 14:27, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC) Jobe

Rachel appeared in the Pilot episode running into Central Perk in a wet through wedding dress ...

Could that be reworded? I don't understand what it's trying to say. The way I'm reading it, I don't think "through" is necessary, and it's in fact obfuscating the point. - Vague | Rant 00:35, Jan 13, 2005 (UTC)

I'm curious as to when we learned Rachel was the middle. It was my assumption that Amy was the oldest and Jill was the youngest but we don't know for sure she's in the middle, she could be the oldest.

-Gedto 16:34, 12 April 2006 (GMT+1)

Where does that info of Rachel having slept with 34 different men come from?

[edit] Greene or Green

I'm a bit confused - if the character's name is actually spelt as GreenE why is this Listed as Green. I don't under the qualification that "commonly referred to in the series as Green. Well it would be as that's how you'd pronouce it!

Many thanks for anyone who clears this up for me!

--Charlesknight 20:20, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

according to the article, its greene so i propose to move the page to "Rachel Greene"Tomba 23:19, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I have requested a move to Rachel Greene as that is the correct spelling. --musicpvm 18:06, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was no move. -- tariqabjotu (joturner) 01:53, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

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  • Support, I thought I was wrong, but I was right. --Dhartung | Talk 07:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose. All of the (unofficial) websites I have visited, spell her name "Green". If some offical proof her name is spelt "Greene", then I would be willing to change my vote. – Axman (☏) 09:29, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong oppose If 90% of the stuff are spelled Green then it's Green.--Bonafide.hustla 20:46, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Is there any source that indicates the name is Greene? older ≠ wiser 02:40, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose. I don't go with the "50,000,000 misspellings on fansites means it's right" theory, but: IMDb lists it as "Rachel Green". The NBC Website from 2002 [1] lists it as "Rachel Green". --NapoliRoma 05:19, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose I think it would be unlikely that NBC would get the name wrong. --Edgelord 06:23, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose - As per comments above - seems like there are some sources for "Greene" but many more for "Green" and more important ones at that. violet/riga (t) 06:27, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Discussion

 Is Rachel's last name spelled "Green," or "Greene"?
It's been spelled both ways. The credits of any episode where her parents appeared list their 
last name as "Green." But in "The One With The Invitation," Ross's envelope to Rachel, as well 
as her RSVP note, spell it "Greene." Then in episode 10.04, "The One With the Cake," the box with 
Emma's cake had "Green" written on it.

So it has been spelled both ways, but if the Friends credits and official sites spell it "Green", we should probably stick with the current title (but mention the alternate spelling in the first sentence). --musicpvm 04:42, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oldest daughter?

It says in the trivia notes that Rachel is the oldest of three daughters. When was this mentioned? We know she is older than Jill, but I don't remember it ever being said she was older than Amy.Sandmaster 22:58, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lived with all of them

Rachel is the only member of the group to have lived under the same roof as all of the other friends: As much as I remember Rachel is not the only one who lived with all the members of the group. Chandler also did that: Joey: Season 1 - 5 Ross: After Ross lost his appartment during the divorce with Emily, Ross moved in with Joey and Chandler Monica: Season 6 - 10 Rachel: After the fire in Phoebies appartment, Rachel moved in at Monica's and Chandlers for a day, till the Firerighter found out the fire was Rachels fault. Phoebe: Moved in with Monica and Chandler, after Rachel had to move to Joey, because the fire was Rachels fault. Please confirm! --Tobi72 11:30, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

changed, friends explained it pretty well, except for Joey-Monica, everyone had lived together with the other during some time. Z3u2 07:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other

Could the picture of 'Rachel' not be added to the Jennifer Aniston page as there is currently no picture of her? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.73.215.2 (talk • contribs) 18:08, January 16, 2007

No, it could not, as the picture of Rachel is not free and a fair use rationale could not be made for identifying the actor with a copyrighted picture of a character the actor has played. The Jennifer Aniston article would be best off with a freely licensed picture of her. Leebo T/C 12:22, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Twenty sexual partners?

A statement has been added to the article, asserting that Rachel had 20 sexual partners over the course of the series, only 5 of which were with people she was in a relationship with. I've watched the entire series beginning to end on DVD more than once, and this statement does not ring true to me. Who were all these non-relationship sexual partners? --Tkynerd 02:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Twenty? Okay, I think thats pushing it. All I can think of at the moment are Ross, Paolo, Tag, Paul, Barry, Galvin (maybe), and Joey (though they never did), all of which were long term relationships. Russ, Josh, and Danny were never sexual or an actual relationship. I think that statement should be edited or removed. DSMeatte 04:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Absent more and better documentation, I'm removing the statement from the article now. If it is to be restored, I expect to see some explanation of who all these people were. --Tkynerd 17:01, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Judging from the source of these numbers, is this the character, or the actress? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.69.137.10 (talk) 02:30, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gavin Mitchell

Rachel is supposed to have kissed Galvin Mitchell. Is it the actor or the footballer ? akarkera 15:47, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Neither. Gavin was a character in several episodes of the show, played by Dermot Mulroney. --Tkynerd 00:07, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia does not have an article for Galvin Mitchell (the character). Shouldn't this article(Rachel Green) link to Dermot Mulroney or be unlinked? akarkera 10:11, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Fixed to point to the List of significant others articles. CloudNine 10:18, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling

Just been watching "The one with Phoebe's Rats" and noticed the name tag at Rachel's office door spells it Rachel Greene". The article should be corrected. josh (talk) 21:02, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested Move

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The result of the proposal was No consensus to move page, per discussion below. -GTBacchus(talk) 22:19, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Rachel Green → Rachel Greene — Evidence from the Programme (see above) —josh (talk) 18:15, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

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  • Oppose Rachel Green (no E) is the correct spelling per Warner Bros.. If you go to the cast bio section of The Official Site, you will see under Jennifer Aniston's bio that Rachel Green is in fact spelled without an E. To quote: "For her role as Rachel Green on "Friends," Aniston has earned an Emmy Award nomination (2001)...". Who would know better than Warner Bros? - auburnpilot talk 18:24, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Additionally, the Emmy Awards list her nomination for "Outstanding Supporting Actress In A Comedy Series - 2001" for her role as Rachel Green; no E. (search here) - auburnpilot talk 18:29, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose The more common spelling is "Green" and in the credits of the show it is spelled "Green" when refering to her parents. Johnred32 (talk) 18:26, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Support. Ross spelled it Greene on his envelope to Rachel in "The One with the Invitation". If we have her as Green, we are implying that Ross couldn't spell her name, and there is nothing in the show to suggest that. Timeineurope (talk) 12:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Or are we implying that those who actually write the show, submit it to award ceremonies, and summarize the show's actors on the official website know more than a prop guy? Remember, Ross isn't real; he didn't spell anything. - auburnpilot talk 15:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
If a writer intends a character to slip on a banana peel in an episode and the character doesn't, should Wikipedia say he slipped on a banana peel in that episode? Of course not, because what actually happened in the episode is what counts, not what the writer intended. Even if someone intended Rachel's surname to be Green, both Ross and Rachel spell it Greene on the show and so Greene it is. One character didn't slip on a banana peel as he was supposed to, another character didn't spell her name Green as she was supposed to. Too bad, but those errors made it to the final cut, and now the first character can't be described as having slipped on a banana peel, and the second character can't be described as having the surname Green. Timeineurope (talk) 18:15, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Somebody misspelling a name and an actor deviating from the script and not slipping on a banana are completely incomparable. It's a completely ludicrous comparison. You are attempting to treat this in-universe which cannot be done. The writers and producers of the show clearly intend for the name to be Green. The official website lists the character as Green, awards have been given to Aniston for her potrayal of a character named Green, and it would be ridiculous to change that spelling. Ross and Rachel haven't done anything, and the fact that you refer to it as an error illustrates my point. We don't play "gotcha". - auburnpilot talk 18:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Fictional characters are different from real people in a lot of ways, but this is not one of them. If a real person has their name spelled in a certain way at their office door, then that is the correct spelling. There is no basis for claiming that that isn't also true for fictional characters, who have names in exactly the same way as real people. Rachel spelling her surname Greene is fictional, sure, but it is no more fictional than any of the other stuff Rachel does. If Rachel does anything at all, she also spells her surname Greene. And if she spells her surname Greene, that must be the correct spelling, because people don't misspell their own names, and there is no basis for claiming that fictional characters are any different in this respect.
I don't see any problem with my comparison; Ross and Rachel spelling her surname Greene is as real or not as the character in my example not slipping on a banana peel. What was intented is as irrelevant in the first case as in the second. Timeineurope (talk) 19:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Always spelled as Green in the credits, but spelled as Greene during the show. Since Green is used more often (in awards, official bios and such), we should use it over "Greene" in the absence of any "correct" name. CloudNine (talk) 13:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
If this were any other case, we would take the name tag at someone's office door as proof of the correct spelling of their name; I see no reason to treat this case differently just because we're dealing with a fictional character. Timeineurope (talk) 18:31, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
My pilot certificate spelled my name incorrectly when I first received it. Should I take that as proof that I've been spelling my name incorrectly my entire life? - auburnpilot talk 19:02, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Now, this is a ludicrous comparison. Have you ever seen a misspelled name tag at an office door? Timeineurope (talk) 19:43, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Why don't we just dispose of this phantom "e" altogether and move the page to "Rachel Greep"? :-) Brad (talk) 13:05, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose. The invitation and the door sign were the responsibility of the prop department, rather than the writers. The WB website spells it "Green", the official companion (Wild 2004) spells it "Green", the scripts probably spell it "Green". We need to have an OOU perspective and use "Green" consistently. Brad (talk) 13:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

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[edit] The audio

Can we remove the audio clip? It is total out-dated, those not follow the actual article anymore, and has some mistakes in it too, like when the narrator say "Pablo" or whatever his name was. Otherwise record a new one, however that is done. ~ GoldenGoose100 (talk) 09:44, 27 April 2008 (UTC)