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[edit] elcor!!
i love the elcor, theyre myfavorite race in mass effect. some one go put it in —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.219.230 (talk) 03:01, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
I have a problem with the Elcor section. I added a thing about them sounding like Hk-47 and now it's been deleted. I guess it makes sens considering I didn't have a source, but if you played KOTOR it is extremly similar(without meatbag though:( )75.121.36.237 (talk) 16:35, 28 March 2008 (UTC)Arbiter099
[edit] SPOILERS
Just removed a spoiler from Rachni section. If you see any major ones - please remove them. By major ones I mean the ones that actually describe the event triggered by the character, not something central to the plot, like the Reapers.
[edit] Why does this page exist?
There really isn't enough information yet to justify moving this information out of the main page but whatever. Second, till there is an official source about the so called reapers, the information should be kept out of the article(s). If there is no source, then it's original research and (more importantly) the writing style had a florid novel quality about it that doesn't fit the rest of the article. IF a source (preferably from Bioware itself) can be found and the writing can be made more "encyclopedic", great. - The Keeper
[edit] Edited proper nouns
I just did a little clean up, capitalizing the names of the races. 65.208.210.97 21:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Sigh. And this is one of the reasons I didn't want the Races moved from the main page. We had this discussion weeks ago. BioWare (for whatever reason) doesn't capitalize the race names. I know it looks wrong but it is their fictional universe and it should be spelled how they want it spelled. See the relevant discussion on the Mass Effect dicussion page. KeeperOTD 15:22, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Note on Reapers
Ok then, to those of you who say that there is 'no source' for the reapers, this is false, as it has been shown on the main forums for quite some time from the official sources, and as to the "Lifted from the novel" complaint, that is false, as that format is something I wrote ALONE, using existing knowledge of them that has been divulged by Bioware to the masses (ie, us), and since there was little knowledge of them, I decided to make it sound sort of like the announcements without actually copying and pasting them in. So, YES, the Reapers are real, and NO, I DID NOT lift the passage word-for-word from any official source, but made sure the facts listed in there were confirmed. Thus, I request that whoever removed it puts it back. Now. ELV 71.146.130.49
Fine, what is the exact source of your information? If you have a link that goes to a page where official Bioware reps. word for word state the relevant information, then feel free to repost and put your link(s) to the page(s) at the end of the section. I've read through the forums and the only thing I've seen are tons of rampant speculation by the posters along with the random, meaningless cryptic statement by the developers (or their flat out denial of something posted, along with copious whining about how unappreciative the fans are). And I've also seen posts by two developers that flat out contradict each other with one dev. going so far as to say the other was wrong. For example: the race of one of the travelling companions, Tali'Zorah nar Rayya, was quoted by devs. as being quarian or salarian depending on who was posting and obviously one of them was wrong (it was Chris Priestly by the by, she's def. quarian according to Brennon Holmes, programmer).
For what it's worth, there are times I get the sense that Chris and the devs. are playing games on the forum pages in order to keep up the "buzz" and their posts should be taken with a grain of salt till information actually appears on the main page. Or we could just wait for the game to come out and everything will be cut in stone. KeeperOTD 18:13, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Quick addendum, here's what I'm talking about on the name of the machine race:
Posted: Tuesday, 06 March 2007 09:35PM Quote: Posted 03/05/07 22:50 (GMT) by Jedi - Legend1127
Quote: Posted 03/05/07 19:49 (GMT) by king of seals
It is indeed some sort of community invention.
"Actually, it's not. The game info page originally had the word "reapers" instead of "machines" but they soon afterwards edited that. It has since spread ...
Thanks
I always had a feeling that it was probably a developer slip up." http://masseffect.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=552491&forum=104&highlight=reapers%20developer
As I was saying, even the name "reapers" is in dispute. Again, let's hold off on adding information that isn't 100% verified by Bioware as a whole and not just speculated on in the forum. KeeperOTD 18:54, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Please expand
Please expand the sections on alien races that include pictures. They're not long enough to properly format the images; in essence, the images extend into other sections. I'm going to make a queue here until the sections are longer. - Cyborg Ninja 00:44, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Capitalization
The names of alien species are proper nouns and are thus the first letter is capitalized. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 15:13, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
- BioWare doesn't seem to consider them so, though — their published material (eg this page) favours lower-case enough that it's unlikely to be just a case of typing errors. -- Vardion 02:53, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
And as another reminder, read what has already been discussed (especially on a small discussion page like this) before putting in your two cents. The way BioWare wants the names to appear trumps any proper noun issues, it's their fictional universe. -- KeeperOTD --144.92.84.206 19:32, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Masseffect 01 garrus.jpg
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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Masseffect 05 asari.jpg
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[edit] Species 37 and The Thorian
I am playing the game at the moment, and although I am not 100% clear on ALL the details I am pretty sure Species 37 is the Thorian, the Thorian is a plant (an ugly meaty one at that) that is hidden in the tunnel system under the "control group" camp on Feros. It is placed there by the ExoGeni Corporation(also on Feros)and is being used to take control of the minds of the Camp inhabitants as an experiment. Saren is also looking for this plant for reasons I will not state here as to avoid spoilers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.154.24.147 (talk) 09:41, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Transwiki/Merge child pages
I went through and tagged all the individual race pages with the transwiki template. The reason why is simply this: Deletionist Wikipedians will propose that they get deleted and having defended several articles against AFD, I can tell you that they're almost certain to be deleted. Rather than have to deal with a 7-day deadline, I suggest that those of you that are interested in improving the articles on Mass Effect merge the aliens races into this article and/or transwiki them to a gaming wiki. (like wikia:masseffect) EvilCouch (talk) 09:39, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Minor species
Shouldn't we make an entry of some of the other species mentioned in the game. Barla Von mentions that dozens of species live on the citadel and that 80 % of known species in the galaxy recognize Citadel authority. Also there are the Terminus systems species mentioned in the game, which are mentioned as Citadel's rivals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.104.175 (talk) 03:10, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Why?
Why do any of these races have their own articles? I realize that, at some point, this franchise might expand to the point where the geth and the turians are house-hold names, but it isn't right now. Even stranger is why the batarian's have their own article (they are not physically represented in the game, mind you), yet the asari (who are, and are very important to the story), do not. 214.13.209.200 (talk) 22:20, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
knowlage that isnt well know should get more spotlight not less. this wiki can grow forever, so haveing lots of articles is not bad. it was on the main article (for mass effect) but it got too large so we choped it up. the batarians are important in the book's. i see no proplem with plenty of infomation, but is they get too small then put them together. but then this article is too big. i need to lie down(211.31.189.93 (talk) 10:04, 5 January 2008 (UTC))
- That is not Wikipedia policy. The policy concerning detailed, fictional material is that such in-depth information belongs on its own site: its own Wiki. If these extraneous articles were nominated for deletion, I have no doubt they would be deleted. I don't plan to do so, however. I am only informing people about what is generally allowed on Wikipedia and what is not. BTW, if there's any confusion, I am not the original poster above. - Cyborg Ninja (talk) 22:54, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
No, I was the original poster, and I plan on nominating that all of the individual articles be deleted so this one page can be the primary source for Mass Effect race information of Wikipedia. It's cluttered and confusing otherwise. 214.13.209.200 (talk) 03:30, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. The individual race articles do not satisfy Wikipedia's notability criteria. They should be merged into this article or deleted if this page is already sufficient. Pagrashtak 16:10, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Batarians are in game. They're in the Bring Down the Sky download. Combined with the codex the info from BDtS is enough.75.121.36.237 (talk) 16:31, 28 March 2008 (UTC)Arbiter099
[edit] Reapers Section
The section on the Reapers suggests that all Reapers are exactly like Sovereign (sentient ships). However, this is never stated within the story itself. The geth aren't all humanoid robots. To assume that all Reapers are the same as Sovereign is to make an unverified claim. Unless someone can prove otherwise, I propose rewriting the section. King Zeal (talk) 20:53, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Weird
I typed in the exact name of this article and I got taken to a disambiguation page. the title of this page was displayed exactly as i typed it. Any idea what's up with wiki search?75.121.36.237 (talk) 18:08, 28 March 2008 (UTC)Arbiter099
- Didn't happen to me. I don't know what happened when you tried it. King Zeal (talk) 20:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] undone romances
in the original idea for mass effect yowould purse romance with garrus or Tali'Zorah nar Rayya. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.193.128.50 (talk) 15:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Batarian desciption
I've been reading the batarian description and it sound nothing like what the picture looks like. Their second set of eyes look like there on top of their brows, not on stalks. Their noses look nothing like slits and I can clearly make out lips. Where did this description even come from?
[edit] Asari Mono-gendered?
I've never played the game, so it's possible I'm misunderstanding this. The asari section states that "All asari are mono-gendered", but that "the offspring is always female and of the asari race". How are both of those accurate? I read the book and remember that they're asexual, so I suspect it's the second point about their offspring that's inaccurate; either they're not always asari or they're not female since asari are asexual. The problem arose after edit 190591747, which added the part about the offspring always being asari. Does anyone know? Thanks. MoraSique (talk) 00:52, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] NOT alien races in "Alien races in Mass Effect"
If article cotains humans, the name of the article should left the "alien" word. I am not right?--Beyond silence 20:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
