User talk:Quo tsv

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Hi - I'm the guy who originally suggested the Keichu Do be deleted. I did a bit of fix up with regrad to wikification and requirements/suggestions of the martial arts project. One of the things is an overuse of titles especially those from unacredited universities and frankly soke mills. In any case Wikipedia frowns on the use of martial arts titles so the removal (which I did) gets rid of much of that problem. The other thing that could be improved is a bit more emphasis on notability. Where the art is practiced by how many, etc.

Please don't be offended but what probably got my hackles up in the first place is the impression that this was yet another Soke, PhD, Reverand, 10th Dan American Karate system. There are so many of them. When you revise the article - please keep that in mind. Just to let you know I found the article only because it was flagged as unrated by Wikipedia:WikiProject Martial Arts. I was going through a number of such sites at the time. There was nothing personal.

I hope this helps more than hinders and please leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions. CheersPeter Rehse 01:34, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

The article is coming along fine. Again as I said before the most important thing is to make a case of notability. The fact that the art is practiced outside an immediate area is important - internationally is very important. Perhaps it is hard to see by organizations that do this but in the states it is very easy to join self recognizing bodies with grand titles but no real meaning. Names like World Council of Family Soke etc., are laughable (I just use them for an example) and are considered sales gimicks. There may or may not be real benefit to membership but your average reader which is what Wikipedia is aimed at is confused and well ... generally I would be careful about using them in the article. My opinion only. Cheers Peter Rehse 02:32, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Personally I would avoid it all togeather but that's just me. I also don't know too much about US Karate - I mean if there is an organization that has wide recognition and respect why not. Of course if they did - they should have their own wikipedia article. Perhaps that is a good rule of thumb for inclusion.Peter Rehse 00:59, 11 December 2006 (UTC)