Talk:Quivira and Cíbola
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Maybe this article ought to be renamed to something else. It deals more with Quivira and Cibola as two of the Seven Cities rather than just Quivira. Maybe make another article titled Quivira that just explains it's one of the two legendary cities, and make this the central article or something.
Timmothias 03:21, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- Or make this a redirect to Quivira and Cibola and put the main article there. Which would best be accomplished by a page move. -- Jmabel | Talk 20:26, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- I agree with Jmabel's proposal, though I would include the orthography in the main page's title, thus Quivira and Cíbola. Draeco 18:24, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
- Yes. Oops. Quivira and Cibola should redirect to Quivira and Cíbola. -- Jmabel | Talk 07:52, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- As soon as they are done with this as translation of the week, let's go for the move and merge. -- Jmabel | Talk 22:52, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- I think the article would be clearer if it was called Seven Cities or Seven Cities of Gold, or something like that. Also, does anyone know how closely the legend is related to Antillia?--Cuchullain 06:11, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- No idea on how closely related to Antillia; would not object to a move to Seven Cities of Gold, as long as whoever moves it cleans up all the double redirects resulting from the move. -- Jmabel | Talk 22:54, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry if my english is difficult to understand, but it's not really my fault : I'm french! (and too old to have been teached with the European Language Portfolio...)
- I think that the myth of the «Cities of gold» corresponds to much more than just Quivira and Cibola. The XII century spanish origins of the mythical seven cities evocated by Marcos de Niza initiated a very powerful myth that created various others, like El Dorado, Antillia, La Canela, the City of the Caesars, the Sierra del Plata, Paititi, etc.
- I suggest that the subject and the title of this article should be Cities of gold, because I'm convinced that not all of the authors of the fictions inspirated by this myth knew the story of de Niza and the names of Quivira and Cibola (or, at least not before having investigated the subject).
- It's the way I tried to give to the corresponding french WP article, so if you understand french, just take a look at it and at its disambiguation page.
- El Comandante (talk) 17:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- No idea on how closely related to Antillia; would not object to a move to Seven Cities of Gold, as long as whoever moves it cleans up all the double redirects resulting from the move. -- Jmabel | Talk 22:54, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- I think the article would be clearer if it was called Seven Cities or Seven Cities of Gold, or something like that. Also, does anyone know how closely the legend is related to Antillia?--Cuchullain 06:11, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- As soon as they are done with this as translation of the week, let's go for the move and merge. -- Jmabel | Talk 22:52, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- Yes. Oops. Quivira and Cibola should redirect to Quivira and Cíbola. -- Jmabel | Talk 07:52, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- I agree with Jmabel's proposal, though I would include the orthography in the main page's title, thus Quivira and Cíbola. Draeco 18:24, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Quivira in Utah
I have an old spanish map showing Quivira as being near to either Utah Lake or the Great Salt Lake in Utah. Also some reference in a book called "The Kingdom of New Spain" by Pedro Alonso O'Crouley from 1774. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dswkamp (talk • contribs) 23 July 2006.
Coronado's surname is Vázquez, not "Vásquez". As his article displays, in fact (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_V%C3%A1zquez_de_Coronado). "Vásquez" is an incorrect spelling originated in a South-American overcorrection of the z pronunciation of the letter s common in Southern Spain. --217.127.191.232 (talk) 07:49, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
