Talk:Queluz National Palace

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[edit] Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

This proposal was closed as "move" a long time ago. Húsönd 01:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)


Palace of Queluz → Queluz National Palace – It's the most correct translation from the original Portuguese name (Palácio Nacional de Queluz), confirmed by Google which renders more results if a search is made using that form. The article "Palace of Pena" has just been moved to "Pena National Palace" for the same reason. Húsönd 02:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

[edit] Support

  1. As proposer, I support renaming the article.--Húsönd 02:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
  2. As initiator of the article, I also think renaming it might be a appropriate.--fsouza
  3. Seems like a better translation to me. Recury 14:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
  4. more in line with other palaces. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 23:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oppose

[edit] Move

I moved the article to its new name. fsouza

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

[edit] Placement of the photographs

What if we placed the photographs beside the text, instead of below it? I think it would help the eye move more comfortably through the text. If it were alternated (at right, at left, at right, etc.) for each section, how do you all think that would work? By the way, the photographs are beautiful, Husond! Mr Which??? 02:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Just belatedly seen your comment, your suggestion was the preferred choice. However, it would not work, we tried that, it was fine on some screens but not on others the option was the present layout or lose some of the images, or have a thumbnail gallery at the bottom of the page far from the relevant text. Having tried various layouts and consulted with various people on different screens, the present layout by consencus was deemed the favoured choice. Giano (talk) 09:32, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Work in progress

Move your cursor over this picture .... Interested?? Victuallers (talk) 23:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)


1.Cour d'honneur and monument to Maria 2.Entrance façade 3.Court of the corps de logis 4.Ceremonial façade 5.Triton fountain in the Hanging Garden 6.Ogee pediment 7.Magnolia avenue 8.South facade of the Robillon wing 9.Robillon wing 10.Colonnade 11.Robillon entrance steps 12.Chapel and dome 13.North wing 14.Topiary parterre 15.Road 16. Another view Use button to enlarge or cursor to see more

Simplified diagram showing layout of the palace (not to scale). This key is referred to throughout the article - use cursor to see more detail.
Simplified diagram showing layout of the palace (not to scale). This key is referred to throughout the article - use cursor to see more detail.

trial Victuallers (talk) 23:44, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Very interested, I would love to know how to do that? One small point "3" should not link to the entrance facade, and nowhere should link to Bamkin!!!! LOL. Apart from that it is brilliant, please put it in the article - with clicky instructions!! Giano (talk) 23:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Not to detract from Victuallers' contribution, which is a wonderful idea, but simply to respond to Giano's request to know how it is done. See image map. There are free programs that will map out areas of the image and hyperlink them. The image map article has some useful links. Hopefully Victuallers will continue contributing this handy enhancement. --JustaHulk (talk) 13:35, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh good! Its improved a bit ... I'm working on the piunts you mentioned. I know about "Bamkin" ... I'll get bthat to go nowhere ... eventually. Is it possibile to put the missing picture on wikipedia instead of the outside link ... may take 24 hors to get right ... Victuallers (talk) 23:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Bamkin has gone .... Victuallers (talk) 00:00, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Very impressive, Victuallers! Fingers crossed it all comes together before Jan 5th. Risker (talk) 00:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Brilliant, fantastic - very clever. I've changed one or two of the images in the article's version - we shall have to disguise Husond and send him back for one or two more images now! Giano (talk) 08:49, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the thx guys. I think its finished. Tell me if there is a finesse you need help with. Is there a way I can find out about potential FA articles earlier...? I'd like to make sure I get credited for potential new contributions as I understand it might help me Victuallers (talk) 11:29, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

They only become potential FAs half way through writing, when they look as though they are going to be a half decent page, if you like doing doing this type of work there is a similar plan at Prince's Palace of Monaco which could use your attention in a veru similar way, linking to images in the text etc. You have done a great job here. Helping with FAs though does not help you anywhere, it's jusyt a bit of fun. Giano (talk) 13:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I think this is deserved. athinaios (talk) 15:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Can we do something to stop "3" and "15" linking to the wrong images, can they just have text saying what they are - ubtil we have an image? I tired to do it myself but it all went horribly wrong in preview. Giano (talk) 19:56, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Official guest house

Extreme trivia here, but in case anyone is interested: I deleted the "official" from official guest house allocated to foreign heads of state because I can't imagine how it could be other than official. (Not that I mind: if I've overlooked something, please revert.) -- Hoary (talk) 08:07, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bravo

This is just a truly great article. The photos are stellar, the clicky map is great fun, the article is superbly done. Bravo to everyone who worked on this! It is content like this that makes me proud to be a Wikipedian. --JayHenry (talk) 00:52, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Yeah I have to say I would like to see the clicky map illustrating all complicated architectural buildings and it is quite amusing to play with too. I'm going to teach myself how to do it Giano (talk) 11:29, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Oooh, lovely

What a grand article. Made me smile to see something so excellently edifying on the main page. Beautiful photographs too. Well done to all concerned. One small thing--in the plan, I "read" the road as a pillared collonnade or something like that because of the huge dots--I guess they're supposed to represent the cats eyes/road studs/whatever but they just look odd! But apart from that, 10/10, gold stars all round, go to the top of the class.86.133.240.138 (talk) 12:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Now you come to mention it I see what you mean. I have upoaded a new image here Image:GianonewplanQueluz.JPG without the offending white lines, also this new image has a "no. 16" which could link here Image:Palácio Nacional de Queluz 4.jpg. Perhaps if Victualllers is in a very good mood and has a week or so to spare........... Giano (talk) 12:48, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Done! Whilst still on main page! Two problems ... I had to say "other view" for position 16 as I wasnt sure of the correct title. Also I think FAs should have pictures on Wikimedia commons and this one is not there. However thx and thx for the barnstar and the patience award. I did find a list of forthcoming FAs.... my next assistance is with Boshin War on the 12th. Victuallers (talk) 23:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Pictures on Commons is purely a matter of choice. I've seen too many "mistakes" lately, where Commons has deleted images for weird reasons. As the Commons administrator structure has become divergent from En., and as its methods and policies have diverged, fewer and fewer people want to trust FA images solely to Commons. Having the images both places is fine, but having them moved to Commons gives quite a few people the heebie jeebies. I'd vote "no" to putting these excellent images there and not having them at .en, but it's fine if Commons wants copies. Kudos, of course, to all the photographers, writers, and Giano especially. Geogre (talk) 00:32, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Do you mean the basic map picture itself? For some reason I can never upload to commons it always times out that is why I never do it. I seem to have a very odd connection. It does look good though doesn't it - this has to be the best page ever! Giano (talk) 01:06, 6 January 2008 (UTC)