Talk:Queer horror

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[edit] Porn

Why are porn movies listed here? They have no artistic merit and only a tenuous link to cinema and so should not be listed - if you're going to list gay porn with horror storylines as Queer Horror (a subgenre of Queer Cinema), then every non-horror gay porn movie ever made should also be listed under Queer Cinema. Ramore —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramore (talk • contribs) 05:28, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Definition of Queer

In order to prevent this from becoming one and the same as the horror genre, a definition of queer needs to be added. If books or films don't fit this definition, they should not be added to the bibliography or filmography.

'Queer' content needs to include on-screen, same-sex sexual or affectional desire, disclosure of alternative sexual/affectional orientation through words or action or a theme that is specific to GLBT folks.

This does NOT include the following:

  • same-sex rape or child abuse
  • people acting or dressing cross-gender for the purpose of amusement only
  • content considered 'homo-erotic'. Well built guys parading around in their underwear are NOT inherently queer.

Qvamp 19:50, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

  • As it stands, the list is pretty poor and the descriptions of a lot of the so-called LGBT films are rather vague. A lot of the films listed as 'gay' are only as such because they either have a gay actor, a gay/transgender character, have brief references to homosexuality, or as stated above, misidentified 'homoerotic content', none of which make up the entire theme/plot of the movie. Maybe I'm not understanding what consititutes a 'Queer Horror' film, but would anyone actually consider Silence of the Lambs or Nightmare on Elm Street 2 an LGBT film?Skibz777 (talk) 01:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Definition of Horror

Horror content can include items that fall into the horror genre, items that fall into closely related genres (for example: dark fantasy), or items that fall into other genres but include a character type associated with the horror genre (vampires, werewolves, monsters, ghosts) Qvamp 19:49, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Overuse of the word, Queer

I don't know about you, but I find that the word, Queer, is overused. In some cases the word gives the article a rather unencyclopedic sound, not to mention rather homophobic. The sentence, "Books were generally controlled by larger publishers and this made it very difficult for queers to get their message out," is a good example of this. Wolf ODonnell 13:57, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

The word 'horror' is also used a lot. Unless you can give a reason why the word 'queer' is substantially different than the word 'horror' in an academic sense, I'm not sure I understand the concern. While the word 'queer' used to be a homophobic word, it is used commonly to refer to the GLBT community nowadays by the community itself (see Queer). Qvamp 05:02, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
That makes the article have a US bias as usage of the word queer amongst the LGBT comunity outside of the US (specifically English speaking nations) is extremely rare. Also, it is using a reclaimed slang term in the narrative and the only real comparison to it is to look at articles about black culture and count the amount of times their reclaimed word is used in the narrative. It's fine to use it as part of the title of something if that is the accepted title, like Queer Cinema, but that doesn't make it good grammar to use the word in the narrative.Ramore —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramore (talk • contribs) 05:25, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, I can't help but notice that a few of the movies and tv shows listed in the list aren't GLBT at all but merely have a GBLT character. Wolf ODonnell 14:09, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Considering movies cannot actually have sex with a same-sex partner... what is your definition of a 'queer movie?' Qvamp 05:02, 11 August 2007 (UTC)