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This Queensland, Australia redirect is silly. Of the links to this page:

  • 280 were to Queensland and redirected to Queensland, Australia. (Rough count, maybe it was 275, maybe it was 293.)
  • 10 were to Queensland, Australia in the form <<Queensland, Australia|Queensland>> - i.e., the short form was preffered by the editor who made the link, but he or she went to extra trouble to avoid triggering a redirect]]
  • 4 were to Queensland, Australia where the text was clearly better without the gratutious "Australia"
  • 3 were to Queensland, Australia and actually made more sense that way.

Round figures, that's a 99% vote for Queensland against a 1% vote for the long and clumsy form. I'm going to move it back. Tannin 01:43 Apr 25, 2003 (UTC)

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[edit] Page history lost in move:

07:33 Sep 19, 2001 . . 137.111.13.xxx New entry, entire content: "State of Australia, in the northeast of the country. Capital city Brisbane. Only Australian state with a unicameral legislature."

M 15:43 Feb 25, 2002 . . Conversion script (Automated conversion)

14:45 Apr 6, 2002 62.188.202.206 added "thought I'd add some framing, now needs some content":

[edit] Geography

[edit] Demography

  • state population
  • racial/ethnic makeup of state
  • religious makeup of state

[edit] Economy

  • State income, GDP Uhhh, third lowest GDP in Australia after Tasmania and SA? Is this a joke? Where is the source for this? The ABS says otherwise: [1]58.162.28.169 15:00, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
-Fixed58.162.28.169 15:00, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Major industries/products
  • state taxes

[edit] Law/Government of state


huh?

[edit] History

I am interested in doing some articles covering Queensland history, in particular labour movement history. I have just created Queensland Council of Unions as an introduction and linking point.--Takver 15:16, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Peter Lindsay occupies the seat of Herbert for Liberal in federal parliament. George Colbran is the labor candidate for Labor, for the seat of Herbert.

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[edit] Colleges/Universities

21:17 Jun 23, 2002 . . Karen Johnson moved to Queensland, Australia

END PAGE HISTORY LOST IN MOVE

Tannin 01:52 Apr 25, 2003 (UTC)

294 in favour of Queemsland? Queemsland? That's what your summary said!!! *grin*. Yoo hid mae wirrid four am oment. ÉÍREman 01:53 Apr 25, 2003 (UTC)

So, why is it that Victorians drink "Melbourne Bitter", and Western Australians drink "Swan Lager", and Tasmanians drink "Cascade Pale Ale", but Queenslanders drink XXXX?
Because it's so XXXXing good, so to speak. :D BTW, Victorians drink "Victoria Bitter", better known in the north as "Cat Piss".
Victorians drink Carlton Draft. And that watery Tasmanian crap seems to be catching on everywhere. -- Tim Starling 00:46, Sep 22, 2003 (UTC)
No, it's because Queenslanders can't spell beer :D
Interesting. I read figures that said that 60% of heavy beers drunk in Queensland is a VB and growing [2]. XXXX only dominates the light beer market these days. So much for "cat piss". In fact I have tasted XXXX, and I can tell you that while VB may not be liquid gold, but XXXX is about as close to feline urine as is humanly possible. --Spewmaster 06:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Amen brotherRory for suomi 13:56, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Who is Terry Mackenroth? RickK 02:24, 4 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Will this do? Biography of Terence Michael Mackenroth - Gaz 12:58, 4 Jan 2004 (UTC)
What does it mean in news reports where he's referred to as "acting Premier"? RickK 23:05, 4 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Just a hunch. Was he simply standing in for the actual premier, who was away or unavailable? FearÉIREANN 23:18, 4 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Current Terry Mackenroth official biography. Alex Law 07:19, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

User:Chrism recently added {{msg:Australia}} to the bottom of this Queensland article. Chris obviously likes them, I dislike them, what do others think? My argument is that the content of the Msg block already exists at States and territories of Australia and each State or Territory should just link to that article. Opinions? Counter arguments? - - -Gaz 14:16, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)

[edit] So where is the mention of the Torres Strait Islands

Neither mention or Map showing these. Paul foord 01:14, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sunshine not = tropics

Really is it called the "Sunshine State" due to much of it being in the tropics, or also to lack of cloud cover? I thought a lot of it was desert and thus sunny. Have not been there, sadly - maybe someday. Pdn 00:00, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

  • I think its a marketting ploy. Its called the sunshine state because it is warmer than the southern states and many people from further south go there on holidays - usually to sit on the beach and soak up the sun. Statistically, i don't think it necessarily gets more sun that other parts - in fact, in the wet season, much of the tropics are cloudy. I have also heard it claimed that state(territory) capital with the most days of sunshine is Canberra. Adz 01:08, 9 September 2005 (UTC)


I think "Queensland is drenched in sunshine, has warm seas, cool sea breezes and an enviable warm climate all year round; the weather in Queensland is incomparable to most other Australian states" comes direcly from a Qld Tourism brochure, it is not a 'Neutral Point of View'

[edit] Revert inclusion of text about North Qld separatism movement

I reverted a large amount of text about the history of North Queensland separatism. The text was lifted from this site and wasn't particularly encyclopedic in the way it was written. The same text has also been added to Proposals for new Australian States. -- Adz|talk 02:14, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Queensland's mascot???

I wasn't aware that the Giant Tree Frog was Queensland's mascot, is there any source for this? Secondly, it is not a small frog, in compartison to Australian frogs it is the largest, and in compartison to tree frogs it is the largest in the world! --liquidGhoul 08:34, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

This question has been here a long time. I lived in Queensland for 8 years and in all that time wasn't aware that the green tree frog was Queensland's 'mascot'. I do remember reading some years ago in the World Book Encyclopedia (much to my surprise) that the state's official fauna symbol was the Koala. I'm going to remove the frog picture. If anybody can provide a source for either of these claims, that would be good. (I occasionally found things in the World Book that were inacurate and I'm not convinced that it was right in this instance either). -- Adz|talk 11:14, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
I would understand (though still question) if it was the green tree frog, but that is the Giant Tree Frog, which is much rarer, and only found North of Cairns. Considering most of the population is so much farther south, it would be very improbable that it is the mascot of Queensland. --liquidGhoul 11:17, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
Just looked up "faunal emblem" (which is the terminology which should be used, "mascot" is wrong), and got all the emblems of the state. It is stated in, BADGE, ARMS, FLORAL AND OTHER EMBLEMS OF QUEENSLAND ACT 1959 (link here). Sad really isn't it :). Anyway, here they are

Flora: Cooktown Orchid (Dendrobium bigibbum var. phalaenopsis)
Fauna: Koala (Phascolarctos cinereus) -You were right
Bird: Brolga (Grus rubicunda)
Gem: Sapphire

So, there you go. I guess I should have looked that up when I asked the question, but I couldn't think of the word, "emblem". Oh well, thanks for reminding me. --liquidGhoul 11:26, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Have just added state emblems according to the Department of the Premier and Cabinet. BrightLights 10:25, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Towns and settlements

Is the list of 142 towns and settlements useful? Are they selected on any objective basis? can they be pruned down to the declared cities plus the largest one or two in each region? --Scott Davis Talk 05:32, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I have been thinking a seperate page like Towns and settlements of Queensland would be a good idea. If you keep a partial, conditional list how would the casual editor know if a town should be listed or not? - Shiftchange 11:54, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't think that the list in its current form is very useful at all. It would be more useful to check that every article is categorised correctly. The list doesn't give any indication of how large the settlements are or where they are. I would be in favour of a separate article and getting rid of the list. Perhaps replacing it with a few paragraphs about the largest cities, some of the more notable middle order towns, and mention a few of the smallest communities would be more meaningful. -- Adz|talk 03:42, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

There is already List of postcodes in Queensland with all recognised postal places in it (and is actually sorted alphabetically). This list needs to be short enough that it's obvious the entries were selected. At the moment it looks like every casual editor added their favourite place and home town. It has grown by about 40 places in the last 100 edits—and more than half of those are red links! Proston and Woodford must be important places as they have been red links on this page since at least November 2004. A partial conditional list allows editors to know what should be listed by reading the condition—how do they know now? They've heard of the placename, and it's not in the list yet. --Scott Davis Talk 11:31, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to bring it up again - but can't we just completely remove the Towns and Settlements list? When it contains entries like Ingoldsby and Murra Murra, it really has gone past the stage of being useful to anyone. Besides, a list of the important settlements has been provided in the opening introduction. QazPlm 23:34, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Nobody spoke in its defence in over three weeks, so it's gone. --Scott Davis Talk 04:10, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Much better! :) QazPlm 06:37, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jennsland steve irwin

steve irwin was one of jennslands best australians and we miss him very much it was horrible to see him go he is always in our hearts rest in peace mate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.185.116.85 (talk) 18:37, 16 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Ammendment of error refering to the late Mr Irwin as 'former'

Corrected this misstatement. A decceased person is refered to as being late not former. Former is more properly used to indicate a lost position, possession or status. 60.241.1.168 13:09, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikitravel

Parts of this article are beginning to read like a Wikitravel entry. Is information relating to accommodation and theme parks necessary? Can the Climate section be re-written to sound less like what you'd read in a travel guide? QazPlm 08:32, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pre-federation magistrate

I am in progress of creating an article for John Carne Bidwill, who was a magistrate in the Wide Bay area around 1850. Don't know if anyone might like to look at improving the article with information regarding his short time in Queensland (he was there between 1848 and his death in 1851).Garrie 03:31, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Incomprehensible

As of late 2005 Brisbane is the third most expensive capital for housing after Sydney and Canberra and just ahead of Melbourne by $15,000.

I don't understand what the last part of this sentence means. What does $15,000 express? --Gerrit CUTEDH 15:46, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I assume in terms of median house price - Sansumaria (talk) 13:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Area

The area was recently changed to 1727200. But the Government's Geoscience Australia web page states the area is 1723936; and if we add the islands would be. 1730648?? Alan Davidson 05:52, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

The area under the Total category seems to be way out of line with reality. At the very least Land and Water don't add up to anything close to the Total. --SVTCobra 04:44, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Population

The figure for the population was recently changed from 4,164,590 to 4,264,590. First it seems "suspicious" that the change was coincidently exactly 100,000. Second the Qld Government's page (which has an estimate counter) states it should be only 4,209,694. Does someone have an authority that is better? Alan Davidson 10:41, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I would prefer we use the ABS statistics at http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/mf/3101.0/ for all state population figures and keep them consistent. Someone updated the population figure today using a counter at http://www.oesr.qld.gov.au/ but this changes continuously and we'll be forever changing the article. Barrylb (talk) 05:31, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mooney River

Is there a Mooney River in Queensland? Some of the old bush songs mention the Mooney, Barwon, and Maranoa, but we don't seem to have any articles about any of these rivers. Maybe some knowledgeable folks in Queensland could create those. Badagnani 21:05, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

The river is called the Moonie River; it doesn't have an article but there is an article on the town, Moonie, Queensland. There is an article on the Barwon River, which is the same river as the Queensland one. Hope this helps. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 21:11, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Wow, lightning fast and informative. Thanks for your expertise. Badagnani 21:14, 5 November 2007 (UTC)