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[edit] Spadina to trinity belwoods

I can think of five shelters on this stretch of Queen st. (there is the purple one that is called something or other hostel on cameron, then one on augusta, andother one at queen and augusta, the big one at queen and bathurst, and the salvation army at queen and niagara. I don't agree with the statement that this stretch has gone totally upscale in recent years. Sure there are some expensive shoppes, but there are plenty of dive bars (50q, dream cafe bar pub etc).

[edit] The Gallery District, or Parkdale East (or a combination of the two?)?

Living in the Queen and Ossington area for some time now, I have never heard anybody refer to the area as 'the gallery district'. It's considered by most people to be the eastern hub of Parkdale (with Parkdale proper being west of the rail tracks). Where in the world are you getting The Gallery District from? There are lots of neighbourhoods in Toronto with plenty of galleries. 'The Gallery District' is not accurate at all. The neighbourhood has always been refered to as either Parkdale or Parkdale East.

Hi. As I noted on your Talk page a few minutes ago, the eastern boundary of the Village of Parkdale was originally Dufferin. Queen West east of Dufferin is not now, nor has it ever been, a part of Parkdale. I never once heard Queen West east of Dufferin referred to as East Parkdale, or even as a part of Parkdale, when I lived there for five years. Or in the decade since, when I've often visited.
The Gallery District is a relatively-new name for the section of Queen West between Trinity Bellwoods Park and Dufferin. I live just north of this part of Queen West and I've heard people use the term many times, and I've seen it used in local print magazines. While it is true there are other neighbourhoods in Toronto which also have art galleries, there's no neighbourhood in Toronto with as many galleries.
Here's a suggestion: leave 'the Gallery District' in the Queen West article for now, and I'm sure others who know the street and the neighbourhood will comment on this over the next few days. In the meantime, please do research the historical eastern boundary of Parkdale as I suggested. The Village of Parkdale ended at Dufferin, where Toronto began. Cheers, Madmagic 09:03, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm well aware of the historical boundaries of Parkdale Village. However, modern usage does not always conform to historical states (witness the slow creep southward of the Annex, for instance)

The area of Queen West between Trinity Bellwoods and Dufferin is also a part of the Parkdale-High Park electoral district.

Hi again. You added this comment while I was still writing my words, above. :) Regarding the name of the electoral district, that is no more an argument for how people describe the area than saying High Park should be called Parkdale West -- or Parkdale, High Park East. Electoral districts often cut across neighbourhood lines. Cheers, Madmagic 09:03, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
It is a fallacious argument to say that High Park could be called 'Parkdale West' as the name is included in the riding name. Were the riding called Gallery District-Parkdale-High Park, you would have a very good argument though. I'm not claiming that the riding name itself is proof, but along with the fact that many people refer to the area as a part of Parkdale, it all adds up to more evidence.
Respectfully, I'm not suggesting you and I try to reach an agreement right now by discussion. I'm suggesting we both let other Wikipedians add their comments. Can we agree? :) Cheers, Madmagic 09:48, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

It doesn't seem as if anybody else is commenting, so I'm going to go with a compromise solution.

Hello Guys,

I've lived near the Queen/Dovercourt area since 2000, and have referred to my hood variously as Parkdale, Queen street West, West Queen West, and more recently, with the addition of the signs marking such, the Art& Design district. In time, usuage will determine which of these names, if any, will stick.

[edit] Zoning

I removed the reference to the strip between Spadina and University being zoned for "light industrial uses" during the 60s and early 70s. I quickly checked the zoning by-law from that era, and Queen West in that area was zoned for largely the same mix of retail, office, service and residential uses back then as it is today. Skeezix1000 21:08, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] West/East?

Why is this article split between Queen West and East? There is no East article which seems pointless. Why are they split on the Queen Street disambig? Some info on Queen East should be added to this page making it one page for the whole street. TheHYPO 05:43, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't know that it's "pointless" that there is no article on Queen Street East -- it simply hasn't been written yet. As for the reason why this article relates only to Queen Street West, as opposed to Queen Street as a whole (both east and west), it's likely the result of the decision of the person who created the article in 2004. However, I presume the reason that it has remained that way since 2004 is due to the fact that Queen Street West is (or, arguably, was) a metonym/catchphrase for all that is trendy in Toronto, and the various editors over the past two and half years have generally felt that it merits its own article. Personally, I can the logic of having separate articles on Queen West and Queen East, given that Queen West is both a place and a concept (for lack of a better word), although I don't particularly feel strongly about it. The same rationale wouldn't exist for having separate articles on, say, Dundas Street East and Dundas Street West. Just my two cents. Skeezix1000 18:00, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Queen Street East

I propose to add another section to this article detailing the section between Yonge St and Fallingbrook Road. I expect it to have five subsections. Once it has been added we can decide whether to split the article or rename it to just Queen Street (Toronto).

  • Yonge to Don River
  • Riverdale: Don River to Logan
  • Leslieville: Logan to Greenwood
  • Ashbridges Bay: Greenwood to Woodbine
  • Beaches: Woodbine to Fallingbrook —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Suttungr (talk • contribs).
This is an article on Queen West, not Queen Street generally. You should either create a separate article for Queen East, or you should first canvass renaming this article before adding material that does not relate to Queen West. My vote would be for the former. Skeezix1000 23:35, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
I got tired of seeing redlinks or lack or wikilinks whenever Queen East was referenced -- there is now a stub at Queen Street East. Skeezix1000 18:50, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] February 20th fire

I know that the fire near Queen and Portland was a big deal today. But ever since Queen West was first built out, there have been many fires over the years, many of which I am sure resulted in greater property damage than this one, and even loss of life. There have even been other big fires in the last few years on the strip (like this one). To create a whole new section on this fire, right at the top of the article, smacks a bit of recentism. After a week or so, this fire will fade from the news, and eventually new buildings will take the place of the one's damaged in today's fire. In five years, it is not clear to me what impact or significance this fire will have had on Queen West. I am not even sure it merits any mention in the article. Skeezix1000 (talk) 21:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Queen West Arts Crawl

This section of the article uses the first person and is most likely copy-pasted from a promotional source. At the very least, it should be rewritten to avoid this unencyclopedic use of first-person pronouns. I'm also not sure it deserves the same status as the street sections; I suggest moving it to the end of the article, merging it with the most appropriate section or creating its own stub (but notability may well be an issue?) 194.73.121.7 (talk) 14:22, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

You're absolutely right. There was formerly a separate article on the crawl, which was deleted due to notability concerns, but the consensus at that time was that some elements of that article could be merged here. Of course, someone just cut and paste almost the entire crawl article here, and since then no one has trimmed it, or reduced it appropriately in light of the crawl's relative (in)significance in relation to all the other information in respect of Queen West. Skeezix1000 (talk) 17:18, 11 June 2008 (UTC)