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[edit] Bobby Fischer and Gothic Chess

We're having a discussion about whether to include the Gothic Chess material in the Bobby Fischer article. I'm letting you know about it because one issue we're talking about is your opinion on the subject. Check the discussion at Talk:Bobby Fischer Just to clarify (talk) 19:06, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Desprez Opening

No worries. These obscure openings need all the references they can get!:)Pawnkingthree (talk) 00:18, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vladimir Liberzon

That's very interesting. I can't find anything on the net that confirms his death (only a quick look though). There are some usergroup sites that mention it, but these only reflect the same state of confusion that we find ourselves in. Pity it's pre-TWIC, as they would have printed an obit for sure. As far as I recall, there was nothing in CHESS magazine back then, and Burgess would have covered it too, but didn't. I've got to say I'm not terribly convinced so far, I think there'd be one or two trusty weblinks somewhere e.g. The Robert Byrne NY Tmes archive ... incidentally, I just stumbled on this site [1] while looking ... could be a useful (Bill Wall?) resource - and shows Liberzon still alive in Dec 06, as does the online Jewish Encyclopedia. Brittle heaven (talk) 10:53, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

And the hyperlinked site above doesn't acknowledge the Tringov and Bobotsov deaths, even though they were both 2000. Things may look a little more ominous for Liberzon than I first thought. Brittle heaven (talk) 11:20, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New policy proposal that may be of interest

I'm tapping this message out to you because you were involved at the AfDs of Eve Carson or Lauren Burk. Following both of these heated debates, a new proposal has been made for a guideline to aid these contentious debates, which can be found at WP:N/CA. There is a page for comments at Wikipedia talk:Notability (criminal acts)/Opinions should you wish to make a comment. Thanks for your time, and apologies if this was not of interest! Fritzpoll (talk) 15:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] David Smerdon

Hi there. You just reverted my edits to David Smerdon's page, calling it vandalism. The talk page asked for a photo, and I added one. I also added his middle name. I'm just wondering how exactly that constitutes vandalism, and how I might have gone about my business in order to avoid such a scandalous charge. 124.176.16.159 (talk) 20:18, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bobby Fischer

I think I understand your concern over the question of who Bobby Fischer's father was, but the evidence is rather strong that it was Paul Nemenyi. This is discussed a bit in the Bobby Fischer#Early years section. It appears that the FBI thought that Nemenyi was his father (they had a file on Regina) for the reasons described in that section. The best analysis I have seen in print is in Bobby Fischer Goes To War. Quale (talk) 06:58, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

The evidence is alright and perhaps this theory is correct but it's not proven and it's only a theory, it is extremely strange that this wikipedia article is taking sides on that and I will not allow it. This theory is discussed sufficiently elsewhere in the article without the likely remark.

Gravity is only a theory too. Bubba73 (talk), 21:05, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] William Fairhurst

Hi there. You recently edited this page, changing Fairhurst's IM title award year from 1953 to 1951. I agree this is most likely the correct year (you may already have seen User: Niemzowitsch and my own talk page for some brief discussion) and I note your entry on the Fairhurst Talk page. However, I am slightly confused; did you also intend to replace his ref [1] - ChessCafe (the 1953 source) with your ref [1] - Gaige (1951 source)? Or am I missing something? Brittle heaven (talk) 15:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Hello. You may have missed this message last time, for instance if you got two messages at the same time. Regards, Brittle heaven (talk) 08:09, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Carl or Karl Schorn

Hello! I have just written to DaQuirin:

In the 19th century a form of Carl was more popular than Karl in Germany (like Curt not Kurt). Schorn used himself Latin form Carl (see for example, http://www.kunstmarkt.de/pagesmag/kunst/_id142974-/news_detail.html?_q=%20 http://muenchen.bayern-online.de/magazin/kultur/kunst/artikelansicht/die-sintflut/ http://www.oldandsold.com/articles36/painters-19.shtml). --Grüß, Mibelz 15:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

So, it is correct to write Carl Schorn like Carl Mayet. Regards, Mibelz 15:25, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I think that both forms are correct.-- Mibelz 07:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Erno Gereben

Sadly no - I assumed it would, but as you say, that information appears to have been lost somewhere. BCM's source was the Swiss Schachwoche, but I doubt we have any 1980s readers/subscribers here that could check. There's a good chance Edward Winter or Richard Forster would know, because of the Swiss connection, so a trawl of 'Chess Notes' may be a possibility - perhaps a Google search? Brittle heaven (talk) 07:02, 8 April 2008 (UTC).


[edit] Theodore Tylor

Hello! You added to the article the fact that "He placed 5th= at Margate 1935 ". Please see the table in [2] - he did not participate in this tournament... Maybe another source lists him as a player? --Niemzowitsch (talk) 08:01, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mihai Şuba

I see that you have joined the move dispute. As you can see in this link that I had added to the external links section of the article, the name of this Romanian chess player writes with Ş, meaning that the letter reads "sh", not "s". Húsönd 18:47, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not a Romanian you know, and I still spell "Mihai Şuba" in my language, English. Assuming that English speakers do not spell with diacritics in not only wrong as denotes attachment to the past. On Wikipedia, diacritics are very easy to produce and it is thus our duty to provide them to our readers, for the sake of encyclopedic accuracy. The fact that you don't like them reflects only your personal preference. Húsönd 09:19, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Also, please revert your move of this article. It is fully protected precisely due to a move dispute. By moving it nonetheless, you are abusing your administrative privileges. Húsönd 09:26, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
  1. The page is not protected.
  2. I don't have admin priviledges. If anyone would know about abusing admin priviledges, it would be you.
  3. I'm not reverting the move.
  4. If you have concerns about the page name, take them up on Talk:Mihai Suba where they belong. I don't think you'll find much support there, but that's the appropriate venue for your complaint.
  5. Where have you written "Mihai Şuba" in any article? Actually I've never seen you improve a single article in Category:Chess at all. Instead you just move war against guidelines and policy such as detailed in one instance (of what is undoubtedly many) at Talk:Arpad Elo. Quale (talk) 16:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't notice that the protection had been lifted already so I apologize for accusing you of moving a fully protected page. Where did you get the idea that I should only be involved in this spelling issue if I had been writing articles about this person or improving articles on Category:Chess? I don't care much about chess really, so don't expect me to. But I do care about linguistic issues so you can therefore expect me to have name issues within my scope of activity. Not that that would make any difference, on Wikipedia everyone is welcome to participate in the areas they wish whenever they wish. Húsönd 20:31, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tournaments

Your user page works very motivational for me. Hope you don't mind I once again altered it, this time creating some blue links. Within a few years, would be nice to have all these tournaments covered. Good news on the Iranian chess championship. I wrote to the author of the 2008 chessbase article, and he says he has good information (including a complete winners list). So I will create that article once I receive his info. Kudos on the cable chess links, especially the Brooklyn Daily link is cool (quite similar to the nytimes online archive). I find it amazing that newspapers put their archive online as far back as the 19th century! It surely is a great resource. Best regards, Voorlandt (talk) 20:22, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Jan Timman

Yes, I was surprised to see it was a stub when I came across it. I'm using my trusty Oxford Companion to add references but I'd like to find a source for my bit about him being one of the first elite players to truly play a wide range of openings. I know I read it somewhere but can't remember where.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:05, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I've found the reference, from Steve Giddins's chess repertoire book. I'll add it to the article.Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:00, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 1932 in chess

Good work on this. It so happens this is the single worst covered year in the Burgess book, so your source has already filled a gap in our knowledge base - no doubt it will assist with other years too. From what you have uncovered, it seems the Burgess Spielmann-Stoltz entry is OK; It looked a little suspicious at first, but Spielmann ended up living in Sweden to escape the upheavals at home, so there's every chance he would have made more than one visit to Stockholm.

Interestingly, I just checked Burgess' sources to see where he gets all his info. There are of course the usual suspects, Oxford Companion etc. - but also two German (or maybe Dutch) books from the sixties, by a Dr. P. Feenstra Kuiper and a book by R. Eales titled Chess: The History of a Game, Batsford 1985. This latter book sounds interesting; I can't say I've heard of it before, even though I collected many Batsford books through the eighties.

A while ago I mentioned some lesser known 'deaths' entries in the '1990s in chess' articles. In retrospect, I think most of these entries may be worth deleting. Having them sit there with red links is like saying they need articles, but in reality, they'd probably be AfD nominated. It's better not to suggest/encourage articles this way. Besides, if any do merit articles, they can always be added back in later. Hopefully, I'll get on and finish the nineties shortly - is there any period you'd like to see tackled after that, or is it better, for continuity's sake, to simply keep rolling into the eighties? All requests considered! Brittle heaven (talk) 23:06, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] William Samuel Viner

Yes, you are right, in several cases I used original text too extensively but always quoted sources. Sorry, it is my fault. I have just deleted the old page of W.S. Viner. This should be made in similar cases. Best regards, Mibelz 19:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for your help

Thanks for your help on saving the Louis Bozon article from deletion. I really appreciate it. Chris (talk) 20:20, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Also with the Dario Poggi article. Chris (talk) 20:24, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Centre

Fair enough (re: your comments centre v center) but for the sake of consistency, it should be the same word throughout the article. Which do you propose we use? The British, or US version? Llamabr (talk) 03:00, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, well you seem to be on top of the situation, so I'll leave it in your capable hands. Llamabr (talk) 03:27, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] World Chess Championship 2011

Thank you for seeing my attempt at improving this article as the good faith attempt it was. My question to you is what grand prix actually does mean in this context. Do you know? If not, perhaps I should ask on the talk page of one of these articles. Thanks. Erechtheus (talk) 02:33, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Scacchorum or scachorum?

Hi Quale,
Well, I guess this is a good question! If you wish, undo my title move. For while I'm using scacchorum in my Portuguese article. Thanks. --Roberto Cruz (talk) 14:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Jean Dufresne

Hello! You added his death date as 13/4 but in this photo of Dufresne grave it is written 15/4. [3] I believe that this is the correct date. What do you think? --Niemzowitsch (talk) 09:09, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Working Man's Barnstar

The Working Man's Barnstar
You totally deserve at least one of these for doing the vast majority of the grunt-work of converting Alexander Alekhine's detailed results to tables, freeing the text for more interesting stuff. Alexander Alekhine has just been promoted to GA, and you laid a lot of the groundwork for that. Many thanks! Philcha (talk) 11:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merle Oberon

Ah thanks, I didn't realize that about "biographybase." I've resourced the fact with the Australian documentary; I had used the biobase just because it was seemingly a third confirmation. Softlavender (talk) 11:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)