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Current talk

This archive contains messages posted between October 16, 2004 and November 18, 2004.

Contents

[edit] Illegal image?

I was looking at Illegal prime and noticed your image Image:DeCSS.PNG. As much I enjoy civil disobedience, does this image violate the DMCA, and if so, could Wikipedia get in trouble because of it? Derrick Coetzee 19:35, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Response to the Hamburg cell question

[edit] Why?

Why are you reverting me on the 9-11 commission page? Even Prince Badar stated the attacks were terrorist.--198 01:00, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Sex template

Thanks for supporting the cause. You might want to show your support by adding a "Keep" message in Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion#October_20. Thanks! --Cantus 01:14, Oct 20, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] D'oh!

Will behave myself now. Wasn't payin' attention. Thanks. jengod 01:59, Oct 20, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Abu Ghraib

Hi, just wondering - why did you remove the following paragraph from the Abu Ghraib page?

On October 20, 2004, Staff Sgt. Ivan Frederick plead guilty to conspiracy, dereliction of duty, maltreatment of detainees, assault and committing an indecent act in exchange for other charges being dropped.

-- Schnee 14:56, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

For you initial encouragement and your excellent work here at Wikipedia. I am pleased to see that you aware of the energy crisis leading to 9/11. Could I take the opportunity to direct you to my home pages - Unto the Cooking Pot. In particular you might find the quotations pages useful. - Shiftchange 00:48, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Pic tagging

Just tag it fair use. 172 17:54, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Edit War

Will you please lock the Khmer Rouge article again? Stargoat 17:17, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Image

Image:SixthBuilding.jpg has since been removed from the public domain, hence, no articles link here any longer. It can be removed from the Wikipedia archives. Grunners 21:16, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Apollo Images

Hi added the NASA Public Domain template to the images--enceladus 09:30, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Bombing of Dresden in World War II

User:Get-back-world-respect does not play nice.

We are trying to resolve it on the talk page but I have had to invoke Goodwin's Law :-(

He has imidiatly jumped back in and modified the page just as he was doing before the protection was put on. Please protect the page again with the same version as you unprotected until we have had a poll and can use a democratic vote to try to resolve the situation. Philip Baird Shearer 10:37, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Oil price graph

Thanks for doing the price graph for the Hubbert Peak article: is there any chance you could please re-do it to either make its y-axis based at zero, or give it a logarithmic price axis? Either of these will make sense than the current "false base" of $25. -- The Anome 16:36, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Protected Page Assistance request

Howdy, Quadell. Per the requests of other Admins, I am seeking assistance from an uninvolved Admin. (See [1] and [2] and [3] for details.) I am requesting the removal of the Page Protect currently on the Winter Soldier Investigation article. That article is currently locked in a POV state at the request of a user (TDC) that refuses to enter into any discussions despite numerous requests. The previous Admins say I should get an uninvolved Admin to verify that TDC has not participated in productive discussions, and remove the protection. I see your name on a recent edits list, so I am contacting you. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated. -Rob

[edit] Removal of content from The Watchtower

You recently removed information I added to the article The Watchtower. I assert that the information I added is factually correct. If you have reason to believe that the information I added was not correct, please elaborate. Thank you. Samrolken 07:57, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Alhaji Shehu Shagari

Hi there! Thank you for your inquiry. To be honest, I cannot remember where I got that image from. I know that I downloaded it from the web somewhere, and it did not appear to contain any copyright mark, so I assumed it was PD. (At that time, I wasn't so careful about images. I now realize that it's important to be very careful to document their source). I will do a web search over the next 24 hours or so and see if I can find the original source for it. If it does turn out to be copyright (and I don't believe it is, but we'd better make sure), I'll let you know so you can delete it. Otherwise, let's claim "fair use." Talk to you soon. David Cannon 21:44, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] image tag

I fixed the copyright tag of my pict (I uploaded it long before any policy on image tagging ever existed, and I created such a policy with Alex756 on fr: before any policy existed on en:...). If you come accross any picture uploaded by me, they are all gfdl without exception. Feel free to update them. SweetLittleFluffyThing 01:47, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Aspidistra

Hello,
excuse-me for my bad english :( - I reply about Aspidistra image, over there - :) - Twice25 00:21, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] and De Ferrari Square ...

I'm so sorry again 4 my very troubled English ... :-( .... :)) - Picture in object here is by a very old postcard about my town, so I expect that's in PD. Otherwise I put it in unverified status. Don't you think it's correct so? Ciao! - Twice25 19:37, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, Quadell ! I hope see you in Wikipedia in Italian language :-)) - Twice25 00:27, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
P.S.: Your worry about the future, it's mine too. :-( - ("sursum corda", in italian language: "coraggio! speranza! [hope] ...) - :-) - Twice25 00:31, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Quote about Mr B. it's very funny. Really, in Italy are so much thinkin' (and sayin' too) so ... :)) - Twice25 07:46, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] DeCSS pic

I there,

Actually I didn't upload the newer DeCSS picture. I just happened to notice that the latest one was not the one you captured, so I removed the remarks to that effect. --P3d0 02:17, Nov 6, 2004 (UTC)


[edit] 2003 invasion of Iraq:Lancet Study

Hi, if you check the article prior to your latest change you'll see that it did contain the wikilink to the correct edition of the Lancet, and also provided the confidence interval (which as has been pointed out is very broad even at 95% confidence). I leave it to you to decide whether to restore the confidence interval.

[edit] Thanks

Wow. Thanks for the barnstar, man. I just thought the wiki could use a bit more color. Adam Faanes 17:18, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Images

All images taken by me are tagged accordingly. All others were not, and may be deleted if they are felt to be in breach of copyright. Adam 22:37, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Nick berg

You sent me a message that you agree with me but you still reverted my edits back to 168.209.97.34 without any explanation on talk page? Can you explain why? OneGuy 14:07, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC) how to upload an images in java? plz provide source code.

[edit] image:Atlantic Puffin.jpg

This is from a 1905 encyclopedia, and as I understand it, is therefore out of copyright. All images I have uploaded are either out of copyright, public domain, my own or the copyright owner has granted a dispensation. jimfbleak 16:36, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

I genuinely appreciate the comment you left on my talk page. I'm not the kind of person to go flying off the handle in real life and it's all too easy to forget that written words linger a lot longer than spoken ones. Thanks for the support. - Lucky 6.9 18:53, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Tibet Images

Hi Quadell, are you sure the Images you are uploding to commons from http://www.onwardtibet.org/index.html are CC by-sa, the page says CC by-nc-sa. guety 21:22, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Munich Massacre

You are absolutely correct. Thank you for keeping me in line. Wikistress has taken its toll. I need a Wikispa. --Viriditas 22:19, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

As I said, I trust you to be fair. I would never revert your edits on Munich Massacre. Jayjg 22:34, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Oh, and thank you for intervening to help calm this situation down. Are you available to help with other articles in the same situation? Jayjg 22:39, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

How about Sabra and Shatila massacre; it's currently involved in a similar edit war, with all the same players. Jayjg 23:53, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)


i agree with the above comment. your edits were apropriate and hopefully will difuse the dispute. Xtra 00:18, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I just now submitted a good faith NPOV version that should address every reasonable concern. No offense, but the "compromise" version you suggested really wasn't much of a compromise. It simply echoed the existing pro-Israeli POV with a warning at the top of the page that one of the POV terms was in dispute. There was much more in the article that needed NPOVing; like all the unnecessary criticism of the German police that was presented as objective fact. I think you will see that the current version is truly much more of a balanced neutral compromise that accommodates all POVs in a reasonable way without biasing the whole article with the slant of one perspective. --Alberuni 04:08, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)


In response to your question on the Munich massacre talk page, about whether Mahmoud Abbas is convicted pirate, the answer is no. Abu Abbas was a convicted pirate, not Mahmoud Abbas aka Abu Mazen, who is now PLO chairman following arafat's death. Abbas was convicted of the hijacking of the Achille Lauro cruise ship (during which Jewish American civilian Leon Klinghoffer was murdered) by an Italian court and sentenced to life imprisonment in absentia. He was living in Iraq during the Anglo-American invasion, and was captured by US occupation soldiers. Italy requested his extradition, but he died in custody--of natural causes it seems. Kingal86 16:57, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Sabra and Shatila Massacre

Glad to see you coming in on Sabra and Shatila Massacre. I've was trying for a while, but I go burned out on doing much more than trying to get people to at least clarify there positions on the talk page. If I can be helpful on anything concrete, including research, please let me know. -- Jmabel | Talk 09:09, Nov 12, 2004 (UTC)

How about replacing Lebanese "militiaman" with Lebanese "terrorist" in the Sabra and Shatila massacre article. The Lebanese Christians were non-government militants carrying out politicial violence targeting civilians. They murdered hundreds of Palestinian civilians and are usually called "militiamen" or even "soldiers". In contrast the Munich Massacre hostage-takers kidnapped and murdered eleven civilians, much less (although still an indefensible war crime), and are usually called "terrorists". Would pro-Israeali Wikipedians revert that or not?-Kingal86 20:58, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I don't know what pro-Israeli Wikipedians would revert. You might ask one. Incidentally, this debate belongs here. – Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 21:05, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] I'm currently grieving for my country and worrying about the future.

Is this about the re-ellection of bush... and his list of countries to invade???

This is indeed about the re-election of Bush. I don't know if he will invade any new countries or not, but I hope he does not. – Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 17:22, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Emerald ash beetle

Thanks for contributing to Wikimedia Commons - as it is a multilingual project could you please, in the future, upload any animal or plant images under their latin binomial name (thus Agrilus planipennis for this particular image). Afterall, this is the reason we have these latin names. --[[User:OldakQuill|Oldak Quill]] 11:12, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Mesopotamia

hi Quadell. first of all, thank you for not phrasing your comment in Sumerian, as my cuneiform skills are a bit rusty :) your German is well understood, though, and I agree that it would have been better procedure to add short edit summaries (I guess I flooded your watchlist, there?:) — I didn't, because the pages looked all very desolate, most of them with no discussion pages, and some not even categorized. I just tried to make a lot of small edits in a short time, sorry. I have come up with Template:Ancient Mesopotamia (which is itself still very unfinished), and my aim is to maybe start a WikiProject Mesopotamia to get a better organization of the pertaining articles. Would you be interested in collaborating? regards, dab 18:04, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC) PS, I did give short summaries for the 'heavier' edits, i.e. merging Sumerian and Akkadian to Chaldean mythology. dab

[edit] Thank you

Thanks so much for the barnstar! I've been walking around with a grin since I saw it. About your invite to the image tag-a-thon...at this point in time, working with images causes me Wikistress. When I get a little more comfortable with copyright issues, I may check it out. Joyous 22:15, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Commons

Galleries at Commons for plants and animals should have the latin name as their article name. Names in other languages should be redirects. Ausir 22:45, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] commons:Commons:Deletion requests

Hi. The following images are uploaded by you under a cc-by-sa-2.0 license, but the source http://www.onwardtibet.org/index.html said cc-by-NC-sa-2.0, i.e. noncommercial only. Since the commons does not accept non-commercial images, we may have to delete these images unless they can be issued under another license. The images were listed on commons:Commons:Deletion requests, and i just changed the license status. Sorry -- Chris 73 Talk 14:53, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
Image:Young monks of Drepung.jpg - Image:Buddha painted on a rock wall in Tibet.jpg - Image:Om Mani Padme Hum.jpg - Image:Lhasa Valley in Tibet.jpg - Image:Potala Palace.jpg - Image:White Palace of the Potala.jpg - Image:Snow Lions protect the entrance to the Potala Pallace.jpg - Image:Jokhang Temple in Tibet.jpg

No problem. Hope we'll get the images as CC-by-sa. I put a note on the deletion page -- Chris 73 Talk 15:23, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
Thanks. I added a notice to the deletion page on the commons -- Chris 73 Talk 23:48, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)
Yeah! Great that we can keep the images! Thanks for the good work getting the license. -- Chris 73 Talk 13:54, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)
Archived the deletion request and updated the license -- Chris 73 Talk 14:03, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Image:Autismawareness.jpg

I've just verified the image using the following: {{gfdl}} {{fairuse}} I hope this clears things up. JB82(talk)[[]] 00:58, 15 November 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Dromaius novaehollandiae

Hi,
I have loaded an image with english description (Image:Dromaius_novaehollandiae_Distribution.jpg). Bye. Renato 19:24, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Tulipa batalinii

Hi,

The image is now tagged as GFDL. BTW, all my images were uploaded with a tickbox checked that said I wanted them distrubuted under GFDL, so if you come across any other images of mine feel free to add this tag.

Ramin

[edit] Thanks

For trying, anyway. It's a thankless job, and I really appreciate what you're doing. Who knows, maybe you'll be successful. I'm still hoping. :-) Jayjg 23:18, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Trident picture

Hi, Stephano released the picture for our use on the Wiki (I e-mailed him before I posted it). It might also be public domain, but that I can't say for sure. Maury 23:45, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thanks so very much for your support on my RFA. The nomination has gone through; I'm looking forward to many contented hours tidying things up. Joyous 00:45, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Underwater

Great pic idea for the article underwater! - Marshman 05:19, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] parrot

African Grey Parrot was easy -this pic is better than the one in the article which looks washed out. The green parrot is Yellow-shouldered Parrot from South America, although from the angle of the photo you can't see the small yellow patch. The white parrot looks to me like one of the Australian cockatoos, and may not be on the right page anyway. I have no sources for Oz birds, perhaps Tannin can help? jimfbleak 07:41, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Cherry tree photo

I've replied on the same page to your comments at User talk:Davejenk1ns. [[User:GK|gK ¿?]] 16:03, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Cigarette burning

I reverted this image back to the original http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/4/41/20041116164114%21Cigarette_burning.jpg but wasn't able to change the coments that state that the images was from "Photo by "lokozen". From www.sxc.hu
Page says "There are no usage restrictions for this photo." nor delete the porn that was uploaded by user 192.197.71.189 in the place of image. Can you help with this

Thanks Julio Oliveira

It seems to be fixed now. – Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 17:05, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR

I saw your comments on the poll page, and I was wondering if you could paste them on Flockmeals talk page. Flockmeal reverted Yasser Arafat four times yesterday due to serious vandalism, so if you could put that page on your watch list, that would help. Thanks. --Viriditas 20:34, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Mystery birds

I've sorted out the immature Scarlet Ibis, Japanese Waxwing (3) and the Java Sparrow, an estrildid finch. I should be able to identify the pheasant (1), with a bit of research, and maybe the pigeon (2) jimfbleak 06:57, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I have a good source for estrildids, so I'll write up Java Sparrow if you like (may be two-three days before I get the time). The first picture looks like a Golden Pheasant, but the yellow underparts suggest that, if so, it is a captive-bred variety. I have the definitive pheasant book, so I should be able to nail this once i can get to it. The pigeon, judging by the the other images, apart from the ibis, may be southeast asian, in which case I might be able to sort it out. jimfbleak 08:12, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
The Golden Pheasant might be a young male, certainly no alternative as to species. The pigeon is a Pied Imperial Pigeon. The other bird has me baffled; It looks as if it is another pheasant, but no pheasant shows the combination of red in the tail, grey rear head and brown underparts. Blood Pheasant is the nearest, but males have a red eye patch and greyer underparts, whereas females don't appear to have red in the tail. Perhaps a young male??? jimfbleak
I'll do the pigeon too, should have done it already since I've seen them, but must have missed this one. Jim
Thanks for the compliment, but it's not that impressive. The finch, Golden Peasant and Ibis are umistakable, I'm familiar with the two other waxwing species in the UK and NAm, and although (despite what I said above) I haven't seen the pigeon, I have seen Green Imperial Pigeon. jimfbleak 17:23, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] template:disambig

Not editing that kinda nullifies the point of a wiki don't you think? Anyway I thought it was protected to prevent vandalism. Dunc|☺ 19:07, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Sabra and Shatila and Munich massacre articles

I hope you don't mind, but I've tried to recruit some assistance for you: User_talk:Mustafaa#Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre.2C_Munich_massacre. Jayjg 21:54, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Hi.

Just wanted to say hi, good to meet you. FT2 02:53, Nov 18, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Cultural and historical background of Jesus

Would you be so kind as to explain to me why this article has been unprotected? There is currently an RfM, as reported on the Talk: page, between myself and two other contributors primarily regarding this specific article. It would be very disappointing to me if the RfM were be threatened by a reignition of the edit/revert wars which have been swirling around this potentially controversial subject. I'm not opposed to unprotecting it - quite the opposite - but I'm not sure now is necessarily the best moment. But I'm sure you have a reason I'm unaware of. Thanks! - Amgine 05:29, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer! I expected this would be the answer, and I sincerely hope the primary feudants do not return to the previous combat. - Amgine 16:39, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Would you be so kind as to review the current circumstances at this article, and possibly reconsider its status? - Amgine 22:26, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)