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The "trivia" states that Quanah Parker was born in the Wichita Mountain area of Oklahoma. While he spent the last 25 year of his life in Wichitas, most historians believe he was born in present day Dawson County, TX as stated in the "Handbook of Texas Online."

http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/DD/hcd3.html 70.243.178.104 17:12, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] clarification needed on (contradiction in) translated Comanche name?

Help needed from those knowledgable on the subject. I'm just an ignorant, but interested, reader - noticing this discrepancy:

In this article, "Quanah Parker", it states, Cynthia Ann Parker... was given the Indian name Nadua ("Someone Found")...

and

In the closely related article, "Cynthia Ann Parker", it states: Cynthia Ann was named "Naduah" by the Comanches, which means "she carries herself with dignity and grace

Maralrapp 00:33, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Elimination of the unsourced claim Quanah was never a chief

No sources were ever cited for the claims Quanah was never recognized by his band as a chief, and 6 months have passed, so I eliminated that unsourced claim. If anyone has sources, please let me know, and we can debate this issue further. old windy bear 10:00, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adobe Walls Victory?

Amazingly, the current article states that Parker's force won a victory at Abobe Walls, but before correcing that obvious error, perhaps we should ask for the original poster's definition. (The buffalo hunters retained possession of the facility with few losses, in contrast to the Indians, who were repulsed.) In the Wikipedia entry the battle results are listed as 16 Indians killed to 4 whites.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Adobe_Walls —Preceding unsigned comment added by BTillman (talk • contribs) 19:27, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

• I have to agree with your comments. The paragraphs you refer to are contradicted by Fehrenbach and the Quanah Parker website. If there can't be any verification as you say, then it should be modified. Richiar (talk) 20:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

agreed. I removed the caption (as it does not introduce the entire section) and note that if it were to have occurred today, such an incident would hardly merit the name "battle of..." - probably because not much else had ever happened there, it gets elevated above its significance. Moreover, it was typical at the time for such incidents, in which white settlers prevailed, to be reported as "battle of..." or when defeated, as "massacre at...". István (talk) 20:40, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

• • • To add further to the comments, the section probably would need considerable reworking, I only have access to the Fehrenbach source. It may be there is more information in other sources, for instance in the ones listed at bottom of article: I'll put in what I can, maybe others can add to it. Richiar (talk) 21:14, 18 January 2008 (UTC)