Talk:Q (New York City Subway service)

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the desegnation (Q)was once used on the IND 6th avenue line.

Does anyone have any information on this?

During the period of Manhattan Bridge south side closures, Brighton Q trains ("orange Q") operated on 6th Avenue. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 06:19, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

so the Q ran on BMT Broadway before the Manhattan Bridge reconstruction?

A few useful links:
It looks like whenever the Manhattan Bridge south tracks were closed, the Q used Sixth Avenue and 63rd Street. There was not a time that the IND 63rd Street Line was finished, but the south tracks were closed - thus the Q never went beyond Queensbridge-21st Street.
And yes, whenever the south tracks were open, including before the reconstruction and currently, the Q used Broadway. I'm not completely sure about this, but I believe the only services using the Chrystie Street Connection to the Manhattan Bridge, when the full bridge was open, have been original IND services (letters A to F). Basically the A-C-E used Eighth Avenue midtown and the B-D-F Sixth Avenue. However, as the BMT letters were originally assigned by Brooklyn line, there may have been a supplemental service to those. However, post-Chrystie, the IND letters became affixed to the Brooklyn lines - the B on the West End and the D on the Brighton, and any more through the connection would probably overload it. In fact the T (the old West End number) was completely eliminated in 1968, though I think the Q was always only on Brighton. Some of this may be wrong; do your own research as well if it's important. --SPUI (talk) 02:01, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

thanks

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[edit] Picture of Train

The train picture looks photoshopped to add the Q to it.

Articles for deletion This article was nominated for deletion on 2006-08-15. The result of the discussion was speedy keep.

JYolkowski // talk 01:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Service changes in September?

An anonymous AOL contributor has been adding information on a service change to the Q that will supposedly cause it to run local in September. I have been unable to find any evidence that this is the case, including scouring all of the recent MTA announcements and their "service changes" section, as well as doing a news search. I invite the contributor who wishes for this information to stay to show that it is true using reliable sources. Thanks. Captainktainer * Talk 20:01, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

This has been going on for quite a while now. Someone keeps modifying NYC subway articles. The changes are reverted, and a few days later he puts them back again. The offender can clearly see that people are asking him for evidence, and none is ever offered. Marc Shepherd 22:45, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I know. If there are such changes, the MTA would say so. I have contacted himm to refrain from making unverifible contributions. --imdanumber1 22:47, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

According to this SubChat thread, it's just random nonsense. Just ignore him and revert on sight. Pacific Coast Highway (blah • Snakes on a Plane) 22:48, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Service History

The service history is kind of a mess. It mixes accurate information with inaccurate information plus inferred information which isn't quite correct. I'll see what I can do. -- Cecropia 03:03, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

  • Yes please do. I did what I could in the little time available to me, but not being a New Yorker, found it tough going...
Suggest totally dropping the use of the word "Beginning", as it leaves the question begging until when, particularly in the earlier years. I fixed a handful of these with more explicit "During", and so forths, as best I could guess.
  1. I also added a bunch of {{unclear}} tags as this is in rough shape indeed. Hovering over them on the rendered HTML will give the content of what is confusing.
  2. Broke the history into subsections and renamed "service history"... I suspect, erroneously now that I see the upper part of the page again. That there may be a better date breakdowns I don't doubt, but I was here by accident pursuing the mysterious redirect 1 (BMT) (edit talk links history)
  3. That represents (from what I can see) one of the worst named redirect pages in history.
  4. The article even has (at least one) link to a BMT disambig page... I'd have fixed that, but lost it on the edit page.
  5. The overuse of wikilinks is cautioned against here in such an article.

Cheers, and good luck Yankees fans! (Boooooo! Hisss! <G>) // FrankB 18:31, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

There are some Yankee fans from Brooklyn, but I'm not one. Brooklyn Dodgers fan, and then early Mets fan when the Mets lineup was practically the Brooklyn Dodgers Government-in-Exile (but no sym-phony). -- Cecropia 18:48, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Ack!!! No wonder my subconscious self was ignoring this. It's disturbing, like the socks in the corner of my room that I know I should put in the hamper, the ones I see them moving out of the corner of my eye but when I look straight at them they stop (and what is that rustling and chuckling sound when I look there?) There are a few outright errors that are the easy part. It's the unclears and the spaghetti that really need the work. -- Cecropia 18:56, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Let's not edit-war the redirect

The current version has a disambiguation redirect to QJ (New York City Subway service). This seems fine to me, and should be left as-is. Marc Shepherd 19:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I changed it back to J/Z. If you're going to use a dablink to another article, it should not be a redirect. The Legendary Ranger 21:55, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Agreed as per TLR. The same goes for other articles and its content. –Imdanumber1 (talk • contribs • email) 01:51, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
You're wrong again. "This guidance to avoid piping means that a link to a redirect term will sometimes be preferred to a direct link, if the redirect term contains the disambiguation title and the redirect target does not." --NE2 03:50, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
I agree with NE2. Marc Shepherd 12:23, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Notice they say sometimes, not always. Besides, the J/Z article does contain info about the QJ.
Wait a minute, why don't we just create a section about the QJ service on the J/Z article? We could redirect it to that section, and I wouldn't care then. It would probably stop all this trouble, and everyone gets what they want: NE2's passion of redirects, and my information on the QJ. Is this any better? –Imdanumber1 (talk • contribs • email) 13:14, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
The trouble with that idea is that the QJ is merely one of at least half-a-dozen defunct services that ran over that route, or portions of that route. The QJ doesn't logically "fit" into its own section. Marc Shepherd 14:25, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Here's the issue: right now the QJ is covered in the J/Z article. But that's not the only place to put it; it could conceivable be covered in an article about services that run through the "Nassau Loop", or a general article about Chrystie Street changes. --NE2 19:17, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
I wonder why the dablink is necessary. Is it possible that Q could refer to QJ? The service would have been called QJ and not simply Q, would it? Tinlinkin 20:42, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Most of these two-letter services are covered at the first letter - RJ, QB... Someone could go here expecting to find the QJ. --NE2 20:53, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

To me, too many redirects are very confusing. That's why I want us to be careful when using redirects. The Legendary Ranger 21:14, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orange Q?

Excuse me for missing this along the line, but I've seen pictures of the Q train logo as a white Q on an orange circle (as in the B/D/F/V), as opposed to the black-Q-on-yellow-circle I'm used to. Can anyone explain this for me? Does it have something to do with the Manhattan Bridge repairs? --74.72.201.17 12:54, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh, wait - I just read the uncharacterized question about the Q/Sixth Avenue line at the beginning. That cleared things up. Apologies.--74.72.201.17 12:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, there are still some orange Q signs around. One of the signs on the east side of Eighth near the Port Authority has an orange Q. dcandeto 01:50, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

In the station too. Pacific Coast Highway {talk • contribs} 21:06, 4 September 2007 (UTC)