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This image isn't PD. None of the images from national laboratories are in the public domain, whether LANL, LLNL, Sandia, BNL, etc. They all have separate companies under which they publish their content; each company simply does work that the government is interested in. This is easily verified on any of the national laboratory sites. The images can still be used for fair use, though.— BRIAN0918 • 2007-02-14 05:16Z
- True, it seems that this is not public domain, but there is a free license for the public, so it's essentially like public domain. From lanl.gov:
- For All Information
- Unless otherwise indicated, this information has been authored by an employee or employees of the Los Alamos National Security, LLC (LANS), operator of the Los Alamos National Laboratory under Contract No. DE-AC52-06NA25396 with the U.S. Department of Energy. The U.S. Government has rights to use, reproduce, and distribute this information. The public may copy and use this information without charge, provided that this Notice and any statement of authorship are reproduced on all copies. Neither the Government nor LANS makes any warranty, express or implied, or assumes any liability or responsibility for the use of this information.
- Note the original photo this was cropped from now has the ID badge whited out. NTK 15:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- And is the photo of low enough resolution that the individual pictured can't be identified? Otherwise, (although I'm just a layperson) aren't there privacy/WP:BLP issues? Not that I want to complicate the issue with the DoE IP editors, but this might be something else to deal with. -Fsotrain09 17:51, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- No privacy issues, the person in question is (was) a public figure. --140.247.252.156 17:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
- And is the photo of low enough resolution that the individual pictured can't be identified? Otherwise, (although I'm just a layperson) aren't there privacy/WP:BLP issues? Not that I want to complicate the issue with the DoE IP editors, but this might be something else to deal with. -Fsotrain09 17:51, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
- You are correct the DOE national labs have independent copyright policies but LANL's copyright policy is clearly free on this one. --Fastfission 16:52, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 18 USC § 701
The original photograph on the lanl website has the badge whited out or redacted.
I don't think the issue here should be copyright, but of Federal Law.
18 USC 701 prohibits the copying of federal ID cards. As a federal employee myself, I know that we are prohibited from copying or making a reproduction of our government IDs or credentials. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ZooCrewMan (talk • contribs) 19:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC).
- National labs aren't part of the federal government. They just do work for the government, in exchange for money. Nobody at a national lab can claim to be a federal employee. — BRIAN0918 • 2007-03-29 19:39Z
- 18 USC 701 doesn't make a destinction between federal employees and contractors. It simply states that it is prohibited to imitate, photograph, print, engrave, or create a likeness of any badge, ID card, or other insignia of the government without lawfull authority. Since this badge was issued by the NNSA, it doesn't matter if the person wearing it is a federal employee, a contractor, or Mr. Rogers. And, if the orginal photograph on the lanl site has been edited so as to obscure the badge, I think it should be removed from this site.ZooCrewMan 20:58, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
