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[edit] Esoterism

I don't know, but it seems sort of strange to talk about the "esoteric properties" of pyramids as if they were fact. AFAIK, scientific research hasn't , and my BS detector spikes on the mention of blades being dulled by moonlight. [[Userauthor (an anon): [1]. Maybe that's why the one-person style looks a bit idiosyncratic. --Menchi 23:33, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I deleted it. [[User:Trekphiler|, but c 1978, some French researchers published a theory in Omni that the pyramids wera actually made of a synthetic that resembled granite, which they'd produced in their lab. Comment? Trekphiler 21:17, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Article Improvement Drive

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[edit] My edit

Since this article is about pyramids in general, not monuments, I merged all sections about acient monuments in one. I removed large section about Pyramids of Egypt because it was too large, pyramids of Egypt were alredy mentioned in this article and it seemed to be POV -- Xil - talk 20:45, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] references are essential to geometric discussions

The lack of references is a serious issue here; wikipedia is now mirrored so far and wide as the definitive source that when my wife asked (while helping the kids with homework) "must the normal to the of a pyramid be within the base?" I could not find anything but this un-referenced definition.

I do think this current definition is correct, but it would not surprise me to learn that, like trapezium and trapezoid, my well-meaning education had mis-informed me again :) and the real definition would require skewed pyramids to be called by some other name.

[edit] Two pages?

What's the point of having two disambiguation pages? Fredrik Johansson 16:18, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oyam's Pyramid

Hi all, Theres an article Oyam's Pyramid which is proposed for deletion. The article refers to an intersting way of constructing a pyramid, and there is one souce for this [2], however the source does not mention the name Oyam and there are 0 google hits for it.

Has anyone come across such a construction, and has anyone got a name for the constructor? --Salix alba (talk) 00:05, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Georgia & Ukraine Pyramids

I removed these for the following reasons: I'm unable to find any references to any pyramid-shaped structures in Georgia. The "report" of pyramids in the Ukraine provides no source information for confirmation. --Ronz 17:04, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re Ukraine Pyramids

I was the one who added the information about pyramids in Ukraine. Type "Ukraine" and "pyramids" in Google and you will find a number of sources. It was on TV this and last week too (French TV5 for example) with a footage of the structures. 8 September 2006.

I haven't found any verifiable, reliable sources yet, specifically reports with names of who is making the claims or who has examined whatever evidence exists. --Ronz 23:53, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
It's true that nothing conclusive has been reached, yet; but the BBC and The Guardian have both reported on the possible finds - just something to watch. --Jugbo 02:38, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I just found this as well. Again, it's just something to watch. --Jugbo 02:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Lugansk_Pyramid --Ronz 14:34, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Link for Sunpyramid in Bosnia and Herzegovina

http://www.piramidasunca.ba/eng/default.asp

Virtually everyone aside from Osmanagic (sp?) believes the Bosnisan pyramid claims to be a farce. They should most definitely not be included in this article, posting links in the talk section doesn't make it so...

There are many Wikipedia articles about things that most people think are farces, for example, John Titor. As long as it's clearly noted in the article that most people dispute the theory, shouldn't it still be included? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bengl (talk • contribs) 21:05, 7 December 2006 (UTC).
Especially given the amount of "press" the Bosnian pyramids are receiving, I think it only appropriate to add something to this article. I've added summaries of the various arguments for/against these being "real" pyramids, but even most archeologists aren't yet willing to definitvely say yes or no, without visiting themselves. Kutulu 00:21, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
See Bosnian pyramids. The archeologists say it's a hill and that the "excavations" of the hill are destroying real archeological and paleontological artifacts. --Ronz 00:54, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm not going to argue over some mounds of dirt in Bosnia that I haven't personally even seen, but I believe you are being rather disingenuous by stating that "archaeologists" (implying all of them) are in agreement over this mess, or if are arguing that there's no reason to even mention the controversy in the Pyramid article. Either they are real pyramids, and thus belong here in their entirety, or else they're phony pyramids, and belong here as an example of "structures since proven not to be pyramids." In fact, it appears that any time someone comes here and adds anything about a pyramid or pyramid-like structure that's not in Egypt, you shunt it off to another article and delete it. But, of course, this is typical Wikipedia "it's my article, stop making it different" mentality. Kutulu 18:16, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
I've explained myself on your talk page. I'm happy to do it here as well:

I removed your discussion of the Bosnian pyramids because there is separate article on the topic. It's not being added to Pyramid because it's unproven. The same discussion occurred with the Ukrainian pyramids.

--Ronz 22:45, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
They should be mentioned at least in passing, as controversial.66.10.26.253 22:34, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
It already has it's own article and numerous links to it. --Ronz 22:47, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] beginning

i added to the beginning, because it didn't give a clear definition of what a pyramid was or its significance. --The Lizard Wizard 04:26, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Just one point re this: the external surfaces of a pyramid are not vertical, but i know what you are saying, and can't think of a better way of putting it. Lyswim 20:38, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] definition of a pyramid

A pyramid can have any polygon as its base, not merely trilateral/quadrilateral shapes.

[edit] Reability of Article

I have recommended the Wikipedia website to my students, who are aged 16-19, for research purposes, however they have struggled to understand some of the articles. This is mainly due to the complexity of the language used. The readability score of the article is 13.71, which is the years of education needed to be able to understand this article on first reading, meaning it would require graduate level education to read and understand the article effectively. The article could be improved by reducing the length of the sentences, reducing the length of the paragraphs and replacing difficult words with more commonly used ones which would make the article more accessible to a wider and perhaps younger audience. Would any of the editors be prepared to review the article to make it easier to read and thus more accessible to more users? Sarahhcfe 14:36, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

There's a special version of wikipedia written for those whose grasp of english is shaky. The articles are much easier to read, relying on simple vocabulary and grammatical constructs. Go to "simple.wikipedia.org". yandman 17:38, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Truly, if your 16-19 year old (English-speaking) students are unable to process this article, I think that they should be focusing on improving their grasp of the English language rather than reading Wikipedia. This is worrisome.

The caption to picture of the Pyramids of Giza "The 7000 years old building The Pyramids Of Giza" links ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_pyramids ) to a page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_pyramids ) with the same picture with a different caption: "The 5500 year-old Pyramids Of Giza."

[edit] Polynesia

There should be at least some mention of the pyramids in polynesia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.229.221.138 (talk) 03:24, 4 January 2007 (UTC).

You mean Pulemelei Mound? --Ronz 03:43, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Did Dragons build the Pyramids?

My History Teacher says they did, is this true? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.97.112.196 (talk) 03:26, 15 April 2007 (UTC).

No. If they did, there would be pyramids in Australia, but there aren't. - 74.227.115.90 14:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nubian mixup...

Violetrinity 00:46, 9 May 2007 (UTC) The following 2 paragraphs are completely contradictory! The former states that Nubian pyramids were constructed as tombs, while the latter states that they were NOT tombs, but rather monuments. What's the deal???


Nubian pyramids were constructed (roughly 220 of them) at three sites in Nubia to serve as tombs for the kings and queens of Napata and Meroë.

The Nubians built far more pyramids than the Egyptians, but they are much smaller. The Nubian pyramids were constructed at a much steeper angle than Egyptian ones and were not tombs, but monuments to dead kings.

[edit] demand for adding weblink in external links of pyramid

http://users.pandora.be/kenneshugo/index.html Pyramids Scientific Sacred Geometry. This website contains translations of representative topics out of the 10 books in Dutch of Prof. Thijs , Engeneering , Belgian University and High School of Hasselt. Those books describe the pyramids sacred geometry as full compatible with the laws of our positive sciences. Prof. Thijs gives a mathematical-geometrical and astronomical explanation of the pyramidal model. He also decodes the explicit number metaphors in the Bible Ancient and New Testament, reflecting exactly the astronomical maths and geometry of the Egyptian Great Pyramid model. Hugo.kennes 18:11, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mayan Pyramids

There is absolutely no mention of Mayan Pyramids in the main article. An article on pyramids not mentioning Mayan pyramids at all is almost completely ineffective. The only mention of North American pyramids are platform mounds which aren't really even pyramids since they aren't structures. I see that there are pictures of Mayan Pyramids but if there is anyone who is knowledgeable enough about the subject I think they should improve the article and add it.

There's already a link to Mesoamerican_pyramids, which has a section on Mayan pyramids which includes a list of articles on specific Mayan pyramids. -- Ronz  23:45, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pyramids were constructed utilizing imported icebergs

Icebergs were towed in from the artic and used to build an ice road in the river and up the wall of the pyramids to move the huge limestone blocks. As the blocks were slid across the ice the weight of the stones against the ice (another super hard element) resulted in the smooth fine finish we see today. The ice road also enabled less men to pull heavier rocks as they would have slid with very little resistance. As the ice melted by day from the sun god all evidence of it simply washed down river. evidence of this will be found in the silt at the end of the river. Also the ice served a dual purpose as to help irrigate around the pyramids and supply builders with an abundant supply of water. Again examination of the river and river outflows will reveal evidence of these construction practices in the sedimentary silt. Check it out.

Omnisaur (talk) 06:42, 13 March 2008 (UTC)The pyramidical shape if taken as four triangles combined, can be proved to be bascially a triangular shape with a insulator or earthing on top of it. Compare it with the 'basic yantra' according to the vedas in Indian Yoga, it would be just the same, only the trangle being bottom to top shape, with a similar line from above, which is the same as 'permoda triangle'. The three vertices of the triangle in Indian Yoga, specifiaclly in vedas, are labeled as 'preservation, creation, and destruction' and the top line is label as God. In Brahmaism, not bramhaism, there is a difference between Brahma and bramha, God Brahma would deliver the spirit, the body would be created by bramha, as science have proven that the body is made out of carbon, dust, warmth for fire and some more elements, then the living body with the spirit in would be placed and preserved by the preservator vishnu, and shiva would destroy the body and the spirit would receive Moksha (Nirvana) i.e. salvation. May be the egyptian beleived that when the spirit leaves the body, then if they can please their diety primarily it was the Sun, was it Utu??? would sent the spirit back to the body through lighting from the sky and the body, rather bodies, inside the pyramid somewhere in the center of the pyramid, according to the 'basic yantra' the 'navi' (center) and the lighting pass through the insulator above would resurrect the body, after the proper spells from the 'book of the bead' would be gifted to God. So I believe no alien or dragon have been destroyed in creating the pyramid. No animal killing!!! Milan KB

[edit] Phenomena

I remember reading somewhere before that pyramids exert some strange cooling phenomena. i.e. if u put butter in a paper pyramid it will stay cool. I think I later read that this was untrue. It would be nice to see a reference here, right or wrong. 195.213.112.110 13:37, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Complex of pyramids from San Petersburg (Russia)

The information on architecture and details of a complex of pyramids has been received by means of a framework (dowsing) and channelling.. In work materials results of researches in the field of alternative medicine where it is revealed are in more details stated, that the architecture of pyramids can is applied in the medical purposes. In this work it is shown, how the physical form of a matter influences movement of the radio form of a matter (the Spirit substance). And all it is carried out by means of architecture of making components of a pyramid. In work photos of development of architecture of a complex of pyramids are presented. The analysis and comparison to existing systems of clearing of a substance of Spirit is led. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shatilov Konstantin (talk • contribs) 13:22, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yet again, the South Indian Chola Empire pyramids are overlooked

It seems that even on wikipedia the achievements of the Chola are overlooked.....including their giant granite pyramids. I'll add some info about them and hopefully more wikipedians can become educated in more than what they are taught about history in the West. It's surprising because this article has so many edits and is quite old and yet not a single mention of their magnificent pyramids. Zachorious 00:48, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Start with some references please. --Ronz 01:15, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed sentence about Indian pyramids

I have removed the following sentence concerning Indian pyramids from the "India" section of the article: "They are comparable to the Great Pyramid of Giza". I cannot see how they are comparable in any way. Indian pyramids are built in an entirely different, much more decorative, style than the Great Pyramid. Indian pyramids were built for a different purpose - worship rather than burial. Indian pyramids are not comparable in size to the Great Pyramid - the Gopuram at Sri Ranganathaswamy Temple is 236 feet high, whereas the Great Pyramid is 455 feet high. This is not a value judgement - they are just completely different types of buildings.

If someone wants to reinstate the sentence, please expand it to explain exactly how these buidlings are comparable with one another. Gandalf61 09:38, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The lead image

I felt that the image on the right was very ambiguous looking, with the only 3D cue being the dimension lines. The one on the square pyramid page (left) may not be ideal, but it's less 2D looking. Should we draw a new svg to get the best of both? I could adapt the one below that I made a while back for golden ratio. Dicklyon 23:51, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What?????

What Is the Material That the Egyptians made the Pyramids with???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.156.194.122 (talk) 00:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pyramid of the Sun

Hi I wonder if you can put a picture and a reference of the biggest pyramid of the americas: The piramid of the sun in teotihuacan, mexico: [3] [4] [5] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.82.94.153 (talk • contribs)

I'll look into doing that. Dicklyon (talk) 17:29, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
I added a link to List of ancient pyramids by country where it was missing. The pyrammid article is already a bit crowded with images in that region. And I haven't found any confirmation that it was the biggest. Dicklyon (talk) 17:40, 21 April 2008 (UTC)