Wikipedia:Pushing to validation/Wikimania

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This page outlines the original discussion article validation in Wikipedia, set up to allow us to continue a discussion begun at Wikimania 2006. By article validation is meant a rigorous examination of every fact, reference and assertion in an article. After refinement at the meeting a rough consensus was reached, as described at Wikipedia:Pushing to validation.

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[edit] Guidelines

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What follows is an outline of the preamble, as well as some points raised during the Wikimania discussion.

Two things are needed to achieve successful validation of articles:

  1. A process for validation.
  2. The appropriate infrastructure to allow validation to be carried out efficiently and effectively.

[edit] The validation process

  • The system should not only be effective, it should be 'seen to be effective.
  • Articles need to be selected for validation in an effective way.
  • Suitable teams of reviewers need to be organized, either as permanent groups or on an ad hoc basis. These teams should ideally be able to demonstrate their effectiveness.
  • A team would select a good, reasonable stable version of an article and work on this away from the main article space. WARNING: A temporary fork is necessary at this point.
  • The team would divide up its responsibilities, and get to work – checking every fact against outside sources, checking references, examining POV and more subtle cultural biases.
  • After a set time period (say, one month) the team would then agree on a final validated version of the article. This uneditable version would then be made available for users to view as an alternative to the main (editable) version. THIS ENDS THE FORK.

[edit] Infrastructure needed

  • Overall organization – A umbrella project (like the Good Articles or 1.0 project) to organize which articles are validated/updated, contact/set up review teams, etc.
  • Review teams – self-elected, voted in, or appointed? Would outside reviewers be involved?
  • Review process – presumably on a wiki; would reviewers allow open access? Would there be a review namespace for this? MAY NEED SOFTWARE CHANGE.
  • Stable versions – once approved, a validated article should not be editable, except perhaps by the original review team and admins. A validated article would be rendered "null and void" by a single unauthorized edit. Probably these need their own namespace. WILL NEED SOFTWARE CHANGE.
  • "Validated" tab or equivalent – so users can easily see the validated article when they want to.

[edit] To be decided

  • Should we do this?
  • Can we get the necessary software changes – stable versions, new tabs?
  • How should review teams be created? Who will approve the teams? I suggest self-appointed teams from WikiProjects, where the reputable editors are well-known.
  • How can validation schemes be coordinated across the different language versions?

[edit] Points raised

These represent just some of the main points raised during the discussion.

  • Reviews do not need their own namespace, they can be done quiety just off the main article space.
  • How will reviewers be selected - based on personal reputation? Qualifications? Will we use outside experts/communities of knowledge?
  • Stable versions may well be available soon! Should these be the default page - the questioner thinks emphatically not.
  • May be naive to expect people to volunteer for this boring task!

[edit] See also

Article validation on Meta