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[edit] Image tagging for Image:AlSugartownLeeds02 copy.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:AlSugartownLeeds02 copy.jpg. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well.

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This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 18:05, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Welcome!

Hello Purplepickledonions, and Welcome to Wikipedia!

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Happy editing! RobNS 18:48, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] License tagging for Image:James and Tom1.JPG

Thanks for uploading Image:James and Tom1.JPG. Wikipedia gets thousands of images uploaded every day, and in order to verify that the images can be legally used on Wikipedia, the source and copyright status must be indicated. Images need to have an image tag applied to the image description page indicating the copyright status of the image. This uniform and easy-to-understand method of indicating the license status allows potential re-users of the images to know what they are allowed to do with the images.

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This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. If you need help on selecting a tag to use, or in adding the tag to the image description, feel free to post a message at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 19:08, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images and copyrights

Hey Purplepickledonions! I noticed your question at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions and thought it might be easier if I replied here at your talk page. Feel free to reply here, I'll keep your talk page on my watchlist.

In order to help out, I'm gonna need to know a little more about the images you uploaded. Where did you get them, first off? --Iamunknown 01:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

The photos were taken by either friends of James and Tom Martin or friends of mine and they gave me their permission to use them just not sure how to tag them or which to use

--Purplepickledonions 16:01, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image tagging for Image:AlSugartownLeeds02.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:AlSugartownLeeds02.jpg. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well.

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This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 05:59, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of James and Tom Martin

An editor has nominated James and Tom Martin, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not"). Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James and Tom Martin and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you. Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. Jayden54Bot 18:21, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I am trying to rewrite your article in a more encyclopedic style (see User:Jud/sandbox) - please read the guidelines on how to write an article and stop using so many capital letters, they are not acceptable. You will also need to include citations (references) for the songwriting information. Thanks Jud 16:44, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image tagging for Image:James_and_Tom.JPG

Thanks for uploading Image:James_and_Tom.JPG. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well.

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This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 08:07, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image tagging for Image:New_Kryah_1.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:New_Kryah_1.jpg. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well.

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This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 10:24, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please read the guidelines

before you do any more editing! Jud 17:15, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, there are a lot of formatting conventions in Wikipedia that have to be followed, and it will save a lot of time if you take things a bit more slowly so that they do not have to be corrected later. Jud 17:23, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Don't panic about the AFD notice, I'm sure we can get the article into an acceptable form between us,I will substitute my draft version if you're OK with that. You can create your own special sandbox pages to practice on by typing User:(your name)/(name of page) in the search box click Go, and then click on "create page". Jud 17:35, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
OK, I have substituted my draft, and added your list of songs but the capital letters will have to be changed. If you aren't sure how to do something I usually find the best way is to go to a similar article and click on "edit" in the section where there are bits I want to copy, then you can see how the formatting has been done (remember not to change the article you are copying from though. Please remove your name from the bottom of the article. Nobody "takes credit" for any Wikipedia articles but if you want to know who has edited them you can click on "history" at the top of the page.Jud 17:53, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Check out the Manual of style (see your Welcome notice above} for useful information.Jud 18:04, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:thanks

No problem, I was glad to help - I have had a couple of my own articles deleted (including one I did about Albion (they are not considered "notable" enough :( ) and it is really annoying! Let's hope we have done enough now to save the article.

It would be useful if you could dig up some more online references to their songs, reviews or interviews and include them in the "References" section. These must be from bona fide sources, not forums, blogs or listings sites. If you want to include a photo you must tag it for copyright purposes, and say where you got it from - if it is one of your own photos or if you have permission from the twins to release it to the public domain then it will be OK as long as you say so on the image page. You can copy the Licensing tags from the photo used on Alistair Griffin's page (just click on his photo and 'edit this page' to see the code). If you don't do this it will be deleted automatically. Good Luck, and if you need any other help, just ask.Jud 11:08, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possibly unfree Image:New_Kryah_2.jpg

An image that you uploaded or altered, Image:New_Kryah_2.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images because its copyright status is disputed. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the image description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Sherool (talk) 10:52, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Please help..about Kryah picture

The thing that makes Wikipedia considerably more complex copyright wise that most regular websites is that it's a free content project. Meaning that as a default we only want images that the copyright holder released under a set of terms (aka a license) that is considered free (as in freedom). As a minimum this generaly means that anyone must be allowed to use, modify and distribute the images or new images based on them for any purpose (including commercial uses). Images in the public domain (free of any copyright) are naturaly good too. Some exceptions exist for situations where it's highly unlikely that free licensed material can be obtained, but it's supposed to be kept to a minimum, see Wikipedia:Non-free content for details about that.

So to answer your question: It kinda depends on the copyright holder. If they just said "Sure it's ok to use them" the images can't rely be used, there are still too many questions. Did they mean it's only ok to use on Wikipedia or can others use them too? Are people allowed to modify the images? How about using for commercial things? To minimize such ambiguity we generaly prefeer to have the copyright holder formaly agree to release something under a formalised free license such as the GNU Free Documentation License aka GFDL (not rely the best license for images though) or some of the Creative Commons licenses, or at least clearly state that anyone is free to do whatever they want with the images with no special terms or conditions. Please see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission for some more details and how to go about asking for the right kind of permission and where to send the confirmation if and when you recieve it.

Hope this was a little help, sorry it got this longwinded, but copyright issues can get very complex so it's hard to just say "pick this tag" without grossly oversimplifying or misrepresenting the issues. Basicaly you need to have the copyright holder agree to a spesific license and then use the tag that represent that license (see the requestion permission page I linked to above). You can also try browsing over Wikipedia:Basic copyright issues for an attempt to explain some of the basics or ask me to be more spesific if things are still unclear. Best of luck. --Sherool (talk) 18:49, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi again, the "problem" is that per the copyright law every "creative work" (such as a photograph) is automaticaly copyrighted from the moment it's created. So whoever took those photos does in fact hold the copyright to them, wheter they know or want it or not (unless they where hired spesificaly to take the photos, in wich case whoever paid for them generaly have the copyright, see Work for hire).
Now between friends and for most private websites this is not generaly something you need to worry about, as long as you are sure no one is going to sue you for using them all is well. However since Wikipedia actively encourage people to use, modify and re-distribute our content we have several policies in place to ensure that the people who own the copyright to the material we host have actualy agreed to this ahead of time, rater than wait and see if someone complains.
If the photographer is fine with having anyone do anyting with the images there is no need to use a complex legal license though, something like {{PD-author}} is fine. The thing is that we need to know that they have actualy agreed to this. Idealy you should ask them to comfirm in writing in an e-mail and then forward this to the permissions adress as mentioned in Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission, alternatively as a minimum you should at least write something along the lines of "Photographed/Copyrighted by XXX who told me anyone can use this with no restrictions" (asuming that is the case, or if there are conditions what those are (best to have them agree to a set of conditions we have a matching license tag for (read what the tags says basicaly) otherwise things get very complicated) in the summary section of the image page. That way we wil at least know that you asked them for the right kind of permission and didn't just click on a random license tag from the list (unfortunately that happens far too often).
See also Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/Free licenses for a list of the most common license options along with a brief description of each. --Sherool (talk) 09:01, 26 September 2007 (UTC)