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The rivers are actually Jhelum, Chenab, Ravi, Beas and Satluj. I think the author has mixed up their ancient names with the modern ones.

Shouldn't there be different articles for Punjab, India and Punjab, Pakistan? If there are, they should be mentioned here. - Hemanshu 08:45, 29 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Yes, there are articles for both Punjab, India and Punjab, Pakistan. Sunray 09:11, 2004 Jan 29 (UTC)

There are pretty many stubs in the village sections .. for example Rauni (village). could anyone competent fix those up?

Removed this "This why the region contributes to 40% of India's food needs, called "the Granary of India". Indian Punjab produces 40-50% of India's rice, 60-70% of India's wheat. Indian Punjab produces 1% of Rice, 2% of Wheat and 2% of Cotton of the World. "

Plainly not so. See for instance http://www.irri.org/science/ricestat/index.asp . Perhaps it refers to export quantities. Imc 09:45, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Imc PLEASE REVIEW OFFICIAL Government Of India Websites, first, before making poorly researched comments on accuracy of data, for this article.

OFFICIAL Government Of India Website for the Indian state of Punjab.

http://punjabgovt.nic.in/PUNJABATAGLANCE/LeadingbyExample.htm http://punjabgovt.nic.in/PUNJABATAGLANCE/GLANCE1.HTM

To the unsigned contributor at 213.122.13.89 who accused me of making poorly researched comments on accurary of data. I'll stand by the accuracy of my comments and data. You have misrepresented the Punjab government data. At http://punjabgovt.nic.in/PUNJABATAGLANCE/AgricultureEconomy.htm it says "Percentage contribution of wheat and rice to the Central Pool is 64.1 and 42 respectively,...”. This does not contradict the figures given at the IRRI site at all, since that refers to the total production, of the state and of the country.
You have transformed the above statement at the Punjab government site to - “Indian Punjab produces 40-50% of India's rice, 60-70% of India's wheat.” . This is about as inaccurate an interpretation of statistics as you can get. The 'Central Pool' is the stock of food held by the central government, for reserves, price control purposes, et.c. Punjab could well be the major contributor to that. But you are confusing it with the total production of the country, which is vastly greater. Another similar sized region might conceivably have the same productivity as Punjab, but if it exported most of its production, then its contribution to the central pool could be zero.
I've removed the misinterpreted statistics again. Feel free to put them back in, with an adequate reference to the central pool, (which should then include an explanation of what it is).
Imc 30 June 2005 17:03 (UTC)

Irrespective of your speculative comments on the central pool. You should NOT have removed "Indian Punjab produces 1% of Rice, 2% of Wheat and 2% of Cotton of the World." This data is from an official Indian government website and CANNOT be white washed. As a westerner from the EU, your behaviour has provided me with an insight of your mind's prejudices against this state. You should accept this "Indian Punjab produces 1% of Rice, 2% of Wheat and 2% of Cotton of the World." In addition this state per capita leads the rest of India. This state, Punjab, is small in size compared to the average size Indian state. One can only imagine how this state could transform India for the better if it was bigger (if average sized). When I think of the individual states of India, this state's per capita output stands as beacon of hope. The richest people (on average) in the Indian union per capita are Punjabi. The current PM, Dr Singh, of India came from this state and it was his philosophy of economic liberalization that led to the excellent economic growth, from the rubbish growth before. Most people from EU are most impressed with this state, Punjab, than any other state in India- the people and impressive results. One can only imagine how this state could transform India for the better if it was bigger (if average sized) and not small.

http://punjabgovt.nic.in/PUNJABATAGLANCE/LeadingbyExample.htm

Paul Keaton 30 June 2005 20:03.

This article should make adequate mention of Haryana. There are some references, and I've added a few more. But this state is also part of the historic region of Punjab, even if it no longer bears the name. Imc 09:50, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] added disambiguation page

Since there was some confusion between the three Punjabs(Indian state, Pakistan province and geographical region) i created a disambiguation page. the old Punjab page redirects to Punjab_(Disambiguation) and the actual Punjab article is now called Punjab_region.

  • To be consistent with Wikipedia naming conventions, I have renamed the disambig page to Punjab (disambiguation). Ideally, the (disambiguation) isn't really necessary unless there is a consensus that Punjab region should be the "primary" page that is linked to by the name Punjab. I don't know enough about the subject to have an opinion on this. ----Russ Blau (talk) 14:02, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] vandalism

some of it still wasn't cleaned up

The problem is that people are editing out the specific obscenities that they see rather than simply restoring it to the version before the vandalism.
--David Woolley 23:41, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Map

It'd be useful to have a clearer political map of the Punjab region. The current maps don't clearly demonstrate where the Punjab region is in relation to the borders of India and Pakistan or even where it is in the world. Something similar to this would be better.--Nonpareility 17:57, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

The map that was added showing the political boundaries of Indian and Pakistani Punjab is inaccurate for this article as this article is about the historical Punjab region in the centuries preceding 1947, and the area under the linguistic and cultural sphere of Punjab most of it lying between the Indus and Yamuna rivers, which is now divided between Indian and Pakistan with some of the regions forming part of Punjab(Pakistan), Punjab(India), eastern NWFP, Jammu region, Himachal Pradesh, Northern Haryana etc. Political boundaries can change from time to time but the linguistic and cultural influences are what define this region. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.76.44 (talk) 21:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Area

"The Pakistani part of the region covers an area of 205,344 square kilometres, (79,284 square miles), whereas the Indian section is 50,362 square kilometres (19,445 square miles)." This is misleading. Though these figures are correct, the Indian Punjab's area was much bigger than that before it was subdivided into Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh and Delhi. Since this article is about the Punjab before partition, I think it is important to have a figure for the area of the whole Punjab as it was then. I think it was about 140 square miles. I'll add this to the article (with a precise figure, obviously) if there are no objections. -- TinaSparkle 15:56, 8 February 2007 (UTC)