Talk:Puerto Williams

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I think Puerto Toro (could be written with Torro) is the southernmost continuously inhabitted spot, despite of common misconceptions. It is a small town shown on Chilean maps a bit south of Puerto Williams.

Puerto Toro is indeed the southernmost continuously inhabiabited area in the world. (map:http://www.turistel.cl/mapas_ruteros/rut_k_1.htm). It is a very small town made up of about 50 fishermen and their families.

Puerto Toro is a hamlet (caserio), not a "town" (pueblo), according to the INE with a population of 36 in the 2002 census.--JAXHERE | Talk 16:42, 3 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Puerto Williams

Puerto Williams is located on Navarino Island, not in Tierra del Fuego. 200.104.59.54 00:48, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

-But Navarino Island is condered to be in Tierra del Fuego archipelago. (Tierra del fuego = Tierra del Fuego Island + Tierra del Fuego Archipelago). Dentren | Talk 21:42, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Tierra del Fuego is the name of the archipelago (or the name of a Chilean province, but we talk about islands here). The main island is called Isla Grande de Tierra del Fuego. Navarino is one of the islands of the Tierra del Fuego archipelago.--Ratzer (talk) 13:44, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Southern Town and Population

Is another town with politic administration, city hall and publics offices southern than Puerto Williams? no, doesn't. Then, Puerto Williams is The Southern Town in The World and this condition must to be included in the first block. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.120.188.172 (talk) 23:28, 29 March 2007 (UTC).

It was already included in the third paragraph, that's why undid the addition of that information to the very first paragraph of the article.Kilroytech 14:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
There is a commercial dispute between Puerto Williams and Ushuaia which is the southernmost settlement or town or city in the world (PW is further south, but is arguably little more than a naval base despite attempts to dignify it). Wikipedia either should not get involved in this or should report it in a balanced and impartial way. I have removed references. Deipnosophista (talk) 22:52, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tourist info

Wikipedia is not a touris guide, so any mention of specific facilities (private businesses), should be reserved to those which have some special value or reason to be famous. (example the Hotel Antumalal, in Pucon, hosted Queen Elizabeth in a visit during the 1960's would be worthy of note.) JAXHERE | Talk 16:42, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Lakutaia can be the world's most southern hotel. Jespinos 17:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Actually Jespinos is quite right, should we add it back and state that's the reason it's included in the article? There are no other hotels in the Puerto Williams (just a few hostels), nor in Navarino Island, and the ones in Ushuaia are about 15 kms due North, so considering that, Lakutaia is indeed the world's southernmost hotel. Comments appreciated. Kilroytech 03:23, 4 April 2007

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Unless it can be certified and shown that the hotel has received recognition as being the most southern, by having been published in some recognized, reputable publication, this information might be easily challenged as being "Original Research" which is not acceptable in Wiki. It seems a bit picky, and some information I feel should be included but those are the rules and even a massive vote to include this kind of information won't mean a thing as long as this rule holds.--JAXHERE | Talk 17:21, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Certification is a too strong term I think. Nowadays almost every computer has Google Earth on it, if you activate the grid display, you could easily check there's no way another hotel could be more south than Lakutaia, knowing that there are no other settlements capable of hosting a hotel in other islands due south, there's nothing else but sea on other continents and, Antarctica cannot "host" commercial buildings due to the Antartic Treaty. Pretty unchallengeable information I guess.- Even though, I'll try to find out some publication about the "certification", I've even sent an email to Lakutaia, asking them for info. Kilroytech 19:44, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
I doubt if the Antarctic Treaty prohibits 'commercial buildings'; as a matter of fact I have stayed at a Chilean hotel in the Frei base on King George Island, there are banks, post offices etc. in certain settlements. Apcbg 10:11, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
I agree with what Kilroytech says but we still have to live within the policy of wiki about No Original Research. If you haven't done so, you may find it useful to check the link I included above. I'm not excited about this, but we have to accept it if we wish to do work here. If we don't like it we can try (good luck) in getting the policy changed, or take our efforts to some other place where the policy is more to our liking. JAXHERE | Talk 15:09, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
You seem to have missed my point: The hotel discussed here cannot claim to be the southernmost hotel in the world because it is not; there are hotels situated well south of it. I have been to such a hotel, which has even a (German) Wiki article. Apcbg 15:28, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Could it be that user Jaxhere considers your stay at that hotel as original research?--Ratzer (talk) 13:48, 15 April 2008 (UTC)