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[edit] Runebergin tortuista

Korjasin väärin käännetyt sanat artikkelista Runeberg's tart. Manteli on englanniksi almond ja rommi rum. JIP | Talk 11:40, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Kiitos --Pudeo 14:57, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sources not equal

Regarding your recent comment at Talk:Soviet partisans, I do agree with you. You may want to check my proposal at Wikipedia_talk:Verifiability#Index_of_.27sources_of_dubious_reliability.27_needed.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 19:54, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, agreed with that. --Pudeo 19:58, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Terve

Kyllä, olen suomalainen. (löytyykö meseä?)

Kurt.

[edit] Molotov cocktail

I reverted the article back to a better version with more content. It just so happened that an image was lost. You're free to put it back in, I was just being careless. Very sorry.

Alexander VII 19:53, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please don't accuse me of 3RR...

Either you are very new to WP and don't know what 3RR is (WP:3RR), or this is personal attack. With 2 edits in 24 hours (and in weeks for that matter), 3RR is not even close. -- Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 20:44, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

One revert more isn't "not even close". I hate those revert wars when people add biased content.. --Pudeo 18:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Soviet partisans

Hi, may I ask what happened with this edit? How come a big chunk of the article got cut? I believe there is an unfixed bug with some toolbars [1], maybe that was it?

Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 22:38, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, I certainly didn't notice that and didn't delete that text. --Pudeo 22:40, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
I had Google spell checker installed and removed it so it probably was it.. --Pudeo 22:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it could be that. -- Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 22:44, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Yes, I had a look at that. I wondered how countries like Kazakhstan and Somalia (with a capital controlled by Al Qaeda) could be reckoned to be better at "Press Freedom" than Russia. And I found "A truly independent press exists in Russia, but Russia’s poor ranking is justified by the censorship of anything to do with the war in Chechnya, several murders and the recent abduction of the Agence France-Presse correspondent in Ingushetia." So nothing to do with the problem you are discussing. And to claim Alex Bakharev is biased, is plain silly and even bordering on defamotory. He recently increased Deng's block. --Pan Gerwazy 21:31, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Way to much Israeli Proganda

Israeli reports can not be trusted as has been demonstrated by thier claims and high censorship levels.

Do you not know that Israel claims Hezbollah did it and that the UN Secretary-General is racist? By the way the Israeli foreign ministry has asked for volunteers to serf the net and launch a cmpaign to protect Israel. Here is the link.


http://uruknet.info/?p=m25177&hd=0&size=1&l=e

read this on by Wikipedia has an unusually large amount of vandalizing editors deleting facts that are incriminating for Israel...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2289232,00.html

this site is filled with evivence http://angryarab.blogspot.com/

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[edit] Re:Estimates

Hi,

In my version of Khrushchev's memoirs, there is are no estimate whatsoever. Not 270,000, not one million, nothing at all regarding detailed casualties in the Winter War, only vague estimations "lots of thousands" or things like that. And the book was published 1999, so I have no reasons to think it was censored.

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[edit] Finnish Civil War

On the disc. page you mention that the article would need a few new chapters to reach the level of a proper article. What do you exactly mean, what seems to be lacking ?. -- 84.231.165.135

I left a message concerning the GA nomination on the article talk page. Could you stop by and take a look? RelHistBuff 07:18, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the Barnstar. --Ilummeen 13:23, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Finnish Civil War

Thanks for the comment, but the nomination has been closed already! :-) Kirill Lokshin 16:22, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Re: BF109

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[edit] 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict

I'm sorry for "screwing" the template. I noticed before that but i didn't know how to fix it. Could you tell me please how to fix it? I tried looking at your edit's diff but I couldn't find any differences. Your help would be appreciated --Nielswik(talk) 13:56, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Aha~ no wonder. I couldn't see space in diff! Thanks --Nielswik(talk) 14:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Grammar

I'm headed to look at the Aimo Lahti page and see if I can't edit the grammar for you. I don't know anything about him, but I'm a good proofreader.


Resonanteye 14:33, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. --Pudeo (Talk) 14:34, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I did my best, I took out very very little (one or two phrases that had no relevance and sounded awkward with the grammar) but added a whole lot of "the" and "a". Also I broke a few sentences in order to make reading easier, and added some commas and other punctuation to "smooth out" the text.

Since I don'thave direct knowledge of the topic, it might be good if you checked it to make sure I didn't accidentally change the intended meaning or content of the article in any places. By the way, I found this article really interesting. I've never read anything about those who design weapons before. Resonanteye 14:47, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On November 20, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Aimo Lahti, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

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[edit] Civility

Hello, Pudeo. It seems to have been established by Arbitration Committee that you are a sockpuppet of a banned disruptive user. Instead of being grateful that no action has been taken against you as yet, I saw you engage in incivility and call your opponents "wikistalinists". Please take a note that neither neonazism nor Holocaust Denial are acceptable in this project. Further outbursts of incivility may lead to blocks. Best, Ghirla -трёп- 08:44, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello, this information that I am supposed to be a sock puppet is new to me. Thanks for noting it to me. Whole "Kven User" is new to me and I haven't even edited articles related to Kvens or so, so I am not familiar with those issues. I have used this account from school networks so I believe it is due to that if it's not a mistake. When I edited from school, the IP had loads of edits. But since I have nothing to do it with, I rather ignore it. Oh and, "I am" not, but I am "suspected" because of my IP at school. Then, where have I engaged in incivility? Yes, I updated that article with a real image but removed it because of some people who adore partisans. Heck, there have been 5 edit wars in that article so I decided it leave so. Then a serious issue: , are you claiming that I am a neonazi and I deny Holocaust? Please show me an edit of mine that I propose neonazism. I find neonazism disgusting and I have never even thought about supporting it. Where the heck have I denied Holocaust? Ridiculous. There is a Finnish saying that you give a stupid answer to stupid accusions and questions, so I'll go ahead: "lol".

By the way, you are saying I have opponents in Wikipedia. Yes, I have seen your, Ghirla and Ipren's "wars" with Polish persons, and Irpen even said that Piotrus is his opponent in some talk page. I find this immature and foolish, please do not drag me into your "opponents"-business. I want to improve Wikipedia and be in a kind community, rather than argue about some city names whether they should be in Polish or Russian.

I demand an explanation, or I consider your message as a 'fooling around' accusation. --Pudeo (Talk) 12:19, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Dear Pudeo, please cool off. I don't accuse you of anything. I provided a diff where you refer to fellow wikipedians as "wikistalinists". This is an ad hominem, personal attacks which is not to be tolerated. I hope there will be no such incivil outbursts in the future. Best, Ghirla -трёп- 12:40, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Front-page idea

By all means. Do you know if there is a page somewhere with advice on how to go about it, word-length etc.?

Congratulations to you and your fellow editors on the FA thing, by the way.

qp10qp 00:24, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I think we should move this to the article talk; would you object? I don't see anything wrong with your version. Does this remain part of the article or is it a separate thing?
I didn't realise that editors had to apply for an article to be on the front page; I assumed they were just chosen from the pool of articles. What is the application process?
qp10qp 23:26, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Good work. I made some tiny changes. I don't see why it shouldn't capture the passing readers' interest. qp10qp 16:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Finnish Losses

I got those from Finnish Military Website- I will send link when I am free in 2 hours--Woogie10w 15:39, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi I reverted again to 95,000 war dead for Finland only because the MOD in Finland lists the names of 95,000 individuals dead in WW2 [2]. I suspect the higher number is due to the fact that wounded may have died in hospital and were not counted by the Army and missing individuals may have been declared dead after the war. --Woogie10w 17:36, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I made the mistake of changing the number to 95,000 in July without posting the link to the Finnish MOD website, sorry. Maybe you would want to post the link on Finnish Wikipedia for people who are researching family history. I really need to read the Wikipedia articles on the role of Finland in WW2, you guys have been doing a lot of good work on this topic. Best regards --Woogie10w 01:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Soviet Military Losses

The Soviets listed 6,885,000 confirmed military war dead not counting MIA, POW deaths and losses of Militia and Partisans. The official statistic of 8,668,000 total military dead includes 1,283,000 additional POW deaths and 500,000 estimated MIA-dead. This is not credible. Soviet POW dead were between 2.5 & 3.0 million based on the consensus of western historians. Take the 6.9 million confirmed war dead add 500,000 missing killed in battle plus 2.5 -3.0 million POW deaths and we come to at least 10 million military war dead not counting the Militia and Partisan deaths. I suspect the official Soviet statistic of 8.7 million dead is understated in order to make the Soviet Army performance look better. What a coincidence that they list Axis losses at 8.6 million. In any case back in May 1965 the Soviet MOD claimed 10 million military war dead. Richard Overy is right when he says that we must view Soviet casualty statistics critically.--Woogie10w 18:01, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Continuation War edit war

Hi. You are referred in the Talk:Continuation War#Par 2. Where did you get those 9 decisive battles Finns won in the end? --Whiskey 00:22, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

About the strength, the Soviet divisional structure had 650,000 men at its highest point. The Finnish and German forces are presented in a similar manner, first the operational strength, then the full strength in parenthesis. This discrepancy has been used by propagandists of different nations. You must multiply the numbers with at least by 2 to get the full number of soldiers participating to the theatre, meaning that the full Soviet contingent was something 1,300,000-1,400,000 men at Finnish front (maybe the quarter was against Germans by the Arctis Sea...) The casualty numbers are from Manninen's "Molotovin coctail, Hitlerin sateenvarjo", and I consider them the best available. --Whiskey 02:13, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FCW

Look, I simply look up all articles in Category:Russia and mark them as part of WikiProject Russia. I added the Low-importance parameter, so I absolutely agree that it is not that important for the Russian wiki project. You are however welcome to add the Wikipedia:WikiProject Finland template above the Russia project. Errabee 20:46, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

FCW is in scope of the Russia project, as it is defined as part of the Russian Revolution. Why are you playing these negative nationalistic games? Try resuscitating the Finland project instead, that would be a positive use of your energy (and mine). BTW, this was your third revert, better be careful. What a lame edit war you are conducting here. Errabee 17:09, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
You dare question my motives? How about assuming good faith? BTW, I wasn't aware of any competition between WikiProjects; I thought we are all working together to get a better encyclopedia. And in any rate, including your article in the Russian WikiProject only increases the chance of it getting included in the Release Version, so this article will gain from it as well.
And as for you being the contributor and nominator of this article for FA, well congratulations! That still doesn't excuse your behaviour, however. And trying to sollicit help from another editor in Finnish, a language I cannot comprehend, does not work in your favour either. Errabee 17:48, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
I have said time and again that it is part of WikiProject Russia for at least two reasons: a) it is located within the category tree of Category:Russia and b) it is defined as being part of the Russian Revolution of 1917, which is a very big deal for Russian history.
And yes, I've been browsing FA-class articles, because I'm also trying to select candidates for inclusion in the Release Version, which requires an important subject and a high quality. It would be a shame if there were good candidates that never got selected because nobody nominated them.
I can only judge your conversation with Illumeen by seeing my comments quoted by you. So I can only assume you talked about more than just the article being part of the Russian WikiProject. Errabee 18:01, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps I can quote your edit summary: "rmv Wikiproject Russia. This has relatively less to do with Russia, sure the bolshevik army contributed with 4k-10k men, but Finland was already independent. Atleast when the WPP Russia box is so big!"
So how much has an article got to do with Russia before you allow it to be included in the Russia WikiProject? Who gave you the right to decide about the scope of a WikiProject you're not involved with?
On to the other points you raise in this edit summary: Nobody denies that Finland was already independent; I certainly don't. So what has that to do with FCW being in scope of WikiProject Russia? Battle of Austerlitz is also in scope, because a Russian army under Kutuzov fought there. How big a Russian army/many volunteers would it take before you allow it to be in scope?
And your last point: the template is so big. Yes sorry about that, I only use the tools I've been given. I'm no template wizard, so I don't know how to adjust the size, and frankly, I don't know if that's possible for project templates.
And for your contribution on my talk page: "I don't want any fight, but well, seeing a Russian flag first in the talk page (as well it's the biggest template) makes me confused, Russia?"
This does seem to infer that if another flag came first, presumably the Finnish flag, you wouldn't object (so much). And the remedy for this problem is not removing the Russia WikiProject template, but making sure the Wikipedia:WikiProject Finland is active. I don't mind if a Finland template goes first, for Russia this is only a marginal subject (hence the Low-importance, and if a lower importance rating was possible, it would get that rating).
Your next two edit summaries are not very kind, and do not address the point I made. You didn't do anything with my suggestion about the Finland Project; you just kept hammering that it has nothing to do with Russia. This I found to be offensive.
Even more offensive is your second comment on my talk page: "You yet fail to say, or even comment, why it is a Russian topic." I had already explained twice that all articles in the category tree of Category:Russia are in scope, and that the Russian Revolution is a big deal for Russian history. What more do you want?
Then your last comment on my talk page: "I didn't care that much at first, but after your comment (that I found offensive) I decided keep my valid point." I'm sorry, you didn't care that much? Why on earth did you revert three times before my comment that you found offensive, if you didn't care that much? I'm sorry but I don't believe you. Your actions speak against you. And btw, your point is not valid, as I've proven above.
And when you're in a dispute with a non-Finnish speaking person, it is *very* impolite to speak about that dispute in Finnish with another Finnish editor. I don't care what you're talking about or with whom, it gives the impression you're trying to hide something and it denies me the opportunity to defend my PoV. So I'm sorry if you're offended by it, but I still maintain my claim that you acted out of nationalistic feelings (maybe on a subconscious level) and that this is a very lame edit war (we're talking about the talk page here, and whether it is in scope of the Russia project or not, for crying out loud), that you started and maintained. Errabee 13:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for calming down. I really appreciate that. FCW being part of the WikiProject Sweden is a bit absurd, I admit. But then, FCW isn't part of a big event in the Swedish history, it is not in the category tree of Category:Sweden, so there's no need to include that WikiProject. As a show of good will on my part, I significantly expanded Akseli Gallen-Kallela. Errabee 23:36, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks for the small templates! :) Really an improvement. And best of luck with WikiProject Finland. Errabee 00:51, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] DYK

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[edit] Finlands WW2 losses

Hi:I got an E mail from your counrtys military archives, here is the text,

Dear Sir,

You have asked some information concerning the number of deaths in
Finnland during the WW II.

Based on the World War II database we have found follofing numbers
concerning the Finnish soldiers (include also the soldiers who died to
the diseases):
year 1939 5681
year 1940 21082
year 1941 27023
year 1942 9743
year 1943 6180
year 1944 22777
year 1945 140

Sincerely Yours

Mikko Karjalainen

M.A.
Archivist
Sota-arkiston Selvityspalvelu <selvityspalvelu@sota-arkisto.fi>
--Woogie10w 17:34, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Thank you for your assistance

Thank you for your assistance so far on the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships. I really appreciate it. Chris 16:12, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah well, I will do as much as I can on the following days also. But looking to your huge amount of edits on all FIS articles, it's stunning! Really valuable contributions, so keep up the good work! :) --Pudeo (Talk) 16:23, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Soviet partisan photo

1 photo is good, yes. That was what I was proposing all along. Thank you. --Irpen 19:08, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Alright, fine with it. --Pudeo (Talk) 19:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2007 notiability.

You can click on the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2007, then at the top where it shows a current sporting event. Click on that and it will lead you to the current event sports section and you can enter the information there. I hope this helps. Chris 17:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Military history/Coordinators

Hello Pudeo. Thanks for your support at the Military history elections. With your aid I was able to commision this ship to help plunder the coast of Military history. Na, just kidding. If you ever require any astance all you have to do is ask and you will see my ship on the horizon. Kyriakos 08:39, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re. Salpalinja

Hello and thank your for contacting me. Regarding this move, I strongly recommend that you propose it on WP:RM (follow the instructions there). Your proposal will have to be discussed for five days in a poll on the talk page. If there's consensus to move after this period, the article shall be effectively moved. Regards, Húsönd 19:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bot-assisted new article announcements

Terve! I think you might be interested in

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[edit] FCW

Yes I am working on a spoken version :-) it has been a very interesting article.

Cool, very much thanks for the pronunciations! It will help me get a lot closer! SpeakThings:Mellerbeck 16:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maps of Finland in war

I have tried my hand on those maps you asked for, here you have. Chabacano 15:43, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 24.39.181.168

That user vandalised the Cars (film) article after somebody gave him a last warning. Could you block him? A•N•N•Afoxlover hello! 13:31, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wow, this is hard work!

It's like a second civil war, vandals v the good guys (except we have better weapons)! I expected this, but I am disappointed we've had so few constructive edits that improve the article. The best for me was Jouten's. And this one was intriguing. Lacrimosus may have a point.

I hope you'll be able to talk Ilummeen into changing his decision. I am devastated that my comments and edits had that effect on him. The truth is that no one so far today has found anything to criticise in the article, which considering its complexity is an enormous tribute to Ilummeen's phenomenal work. We can soon restore the article to the point where he is happy with it again, I am sure.

Keep fighting those orcs! qp10qp 14:12, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, and still many hours to go.. I'd support better protection for main page FAs, IPs should not be able to edit.. And where are the admins? I don't know about Illumeen, perhaps he is a bit dissapointed because of the vandalism and the "last-minute" changes and other confusions because he did a lot of work to the article. But I hope he will stay here, there's no need to leave.. --Pudeo (Talk) 14:22, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for interupting, but I came arount to congratulate you on your FA and fighting the vandalism on it, when I noticed—in the comment above—you wished for FA protection; this is not done because new users often make their first edits there, and they may be dissapointed if they find they cannot edit the encyclopedia "that anyone can edit". Hope you'll understand. :-) · AO Talk 16:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps it's good that they can edit then, but this is quite hellish, heh. It would be nice to see more admins checking the edit history though, you can clearly see the persons who are in Wikipedia just to vandalize it.. But good job yourself too, you've also reverted a lot of vandalism there. --Pudeo (Talk) 17:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Hell is for Heroes my friend... Admins don't really have to check the article; just WP:AIV would suffice. Thanks for the compliment; another 60 or so to catch up to you. ;) · AO Talk 17:26, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Olympics Infobox images

Hey there. I know, those images are pretty bad. The only reason we did that (which I now regret) is so that all of them have the same names. Now, I'm absolutely no good with changing jpgs to pngs, but if you would be able to change all of them, it would be greatly appreciated. It's a good system, on that template, and they would look a whole lot nicer if they were in one of those formats (preferably svg, but some would probably have to be png, so make sure they all have the same extension).

Thank you, and if you're not able to do it, might you recommend someone who could? └Jared┘┌talk┐  12:24, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't know how to. I just noticed on Helsinki Olympics that the jpg looked bad compared to the png I uploaded. Infact, I don't even really understand the system. So I can't help. --Pudeo (Talk) 12:29, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeah I really don't either. I just know that it works when on, but gives us crappy pictures. Thanks anyway. └Jared┘┌talk┐  12:35, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Continuation War template photo

I am just writing at Talk:Continuation War. Wait a few minutes. -- Petri Krohn 23:05, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Map colours

Looks better. But it always seemed to me that the most logical two colours would be white and red. qp10qp 21:52, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Pielinen image

Hmm. It seems that there is a technical problem that affects some Commons hosted images (see WP:AN#STOP_DELETING_CSD.23I2_IMAGES) for more. The empty En-Wikipedia image page for this file was deleted per CSD I2 after the featured picture nomination was closed so it fell victim to this software bug then. The file in question should be hosted on Commons at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Koli.jpg but it doesn't work at the moment. Hopefully this will be fixed soon. Cheers, --KFP (talk | contribs) 13:46, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 10 June 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Aero Flight 311, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 08:42, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

WAY TO GO PUDEO! already you have accomplished a lot! Lipsticked Pig 09:39, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Heh, thanks! --Pudeo (Talk) 13:21, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Itäkarjalaisten kansannousu

Osaat näemmä paremmin enklantia. Osaisitko tarkistaa ja lisätä tuon Soviet-Finnish conflict 1921—1922 eli fi:Itäkarjalaisten kansannousun? Näemmä jonkun venäläisen tekemä. Kahkonen 17:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Juu, mutta voikohan sitä kutsua Soviet-Finnish wariksi, kun vapaaehtoisten tekemä. Minusta parempi olisi East Karelian Uprising. --Pudeo (Talk) 18:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Niin minustakin. Englanninkieliset lähteet tuskin sanovat mitään, mutta seurataanko käännöksessä suomalaista vai venäläistä nimeä? Kärsiikö neutraali näkökulma suomalaisesta versiosta? Venäläisestä näemmä kärsii. Kahkonen 18:06, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
No tuohan ei nyt edes puhu itäkarjalaisista mitään.. Voitko muuten katsoa ru-Wiki, yritän siirtää siellä ne yhteen artikkeliin, mutta on ongelmia nimen kanssa. --Pudeo (Talk) 18:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Ainakin tuossa Itä-Karjalan miehityksen artikkelissa nimi on "...в 1941—1944 годах" eli siihen malliin pitäisi olla "Финские экспедиции добровольца в 1918—1922 годах" Kahkonen 18:26, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Vaihdoin sen East Karelian Uprising. Made,V. The East-Karelian Uprising 1921-1922 and Estonia./ Akadeemia 9, 1997. ISSN 0235-07771. Sellainen ainakin englanniksi. Nyt pitää katsoa miten nuo reagoivat.. --Pudeo (Talk) 19:00, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Ai added som informeisson and referenssiis to tö artikl. Kahkonen 12:37, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Harvardianization

Hi Pudeo, I did the Harvardianization to Bishop Henry now, what a tedious job but clearly worth the effort :) --Drieakko 14:30, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Good, looks a lot clearer now. I myself did that at FCW :p --Pudeo (Talk) 14:44, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Bishop Henry

That looks such an interesting article, but I'm totally bogged down at the moment; I'm helping out with a demanding FAC, and am half way through trying to prepare William Shakespeare for FAC, and so I just can't help at the moment. I hope I will be able to copyedit the bishop sometime in the future, though.qp10qp 19:00, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Op Khiam post

Great find! I fully support replacing the existing Finnish army picture with the one you suggest. If you look at my reasoning on the talk page, I think your picture may actually prove that they are the same building. — George [talk] 21:46, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Soviet occupation of Polish territories during Polish-Soviet War

Of course Soviets temporarily occupied parts of disputed and Polish territories during that time, particularly during their 1920 offensive. I don't think we have an article on that yet. We do have one on Polish minority in the Soviet Union, and you can read a little in various PSW articles, such as Vilna offensive which discusses IIRC the fate of Vilnians during the war.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  16:54, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Pre-Meiji Period: Use of Japanese era name in identifying disastrous events

Would you consider making a contribution to an exchange of views at either of the following:

As you know, Wikipedia:WikiProject Disaster management came up with entirely reasonable guidelines for naming articles about earthquakes, fires, typhoons, etc. However, the <<year>><<place> <<event>> format leaves no opportunity for conventional nengō which have been used in Japan since the eighth century (701-1945) -- as in "the Great Fire of Meireki" (1657) or for "the Hōei eruption of Mount Fuji" (1707).

In a purely intellectual sense, I do look forward to discovering how this exchange of views will develop; but I also have an ulterior motive. I hope to learn something about how better to argue in favor of a non-standard exception to conventional, consensus-driven, and ordinarily helpful wiki-standards such as this one. In my view, there does need to be some modest variation in the conventional paradigms for historical terms which have evolved in non-Western cultures -- no less in Wikipedia than elsewhere. I'm persuaded that, at least in the context of Japanese history before the reign of Emperor Meiji (1868-1912), some non-standard variations seem essential; but I'm not sure how best to present my reasoning to those who don't already agree with me. I know these first steps are inevitably awkward; but there you have it.

The newly-created 1703 Genroku earthquake article pushed just the right buttons for me. Obviously, these are questions that I'd been pondering for some time; and this became a convenient opportunity to move forward in a process of building a new kind of evolving consensus. --Ooperhoofd (talk) 18:16, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Finland

As you're an experienced Wikipedia editor, I was a bit surprised to see that you deleted my contribution to Finland. I would have understood adding a fact-tag, although I've stated I'll add the source, but deleting without any discussion is not the proper way to behave. As for the content, I'm the first to admit that I was a bit surprised by it myself when I first read it. On the other hand, it is the task of experts in every field to find new knowledge and of Wikipedians to try to add that knowledge to keep Wikipedia up to date and relevant. Professor Juha Janhunen is one of the most distinguished Finnish linguists, and definitely much more knowledgeable about this field than either you or I. Cheers JdeJ (talk) 13:13, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't see the issue being anything new, and I'd be very careful adding unsourced information to top level country articles as of today. By the way, even the very first inhabitants Åland were proto Finnic speakers.[3].It seems just an attempt by Ida Asplunds to ignore the Finnish heritage of Finnish Finland. Even more concerning is the add of some unspecified "Germanic indigenious language". You forget UN has classified Sami people as the sole indigenious people of the Nordic countries. Swedish speaking populations arrived to Finland in the 12th century at latest, although in Åland earlier. This is a widely accepted fact. Do you want to make corrections to Swedish-speaking Finns then, perhaps changing to arrival 4000 years back? You can find references for the fact that Proto-Finnic (Proto-Uralic, Proto-Finno ugric what ever, developed into Finnish anyway) has been around here for atleast 4000 thousands years. Finding such sources for Swedish is more difficult, as most sources suggest it has been around just from 12th Century, with the expection of Åland.
Anyway, I don't see any problems in the current version of the article (my revert). There is just says the modern scientific concensus without disputes. Remember that this is just a brief history of Finland, not Finns, Finnish language or main article History of Finland --Pudeo⺮ 20:55, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to blank out or delete portions of page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did to Finland, you will be blocked from editing. JdeJ (talk) 09:02, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Apart from vandalising Wikipedia, you're also behaving in a very dishonest way. My edit makes it very clear that there are conflicting views, you try to edit out the views you don't agree with in order to present your own view as the only truth. Not only do you do that, but to achieve this you gladly remove well-sourced material from a very reliable source, as Juha Janhunen is one of the leading Finnish linguists (check up his C.V.). What is more, I tried to assume good faith the first time, but both your edits and all your talk of Asplund and other irrelevant things to the article seems to suggest that you aren't here for improving Wikipedia but to push your own nationalist views. What does this Asplund have to do with any of this? I'm quoting one person, Juha Janhunen. As for Swedish speakers arriving 4000 years ago, that's also in no connection whatsoever to modern theories which suggest that both Finnish and Swedish arrived relatively late in Finland. I know that there are older sources that claim otherwise (there are still sources saying the earth is flat as well) and that is precisely why I haven't taken out any other theory but merely added a new one to make it clear that there isn't one accepted truth on this matter. What you're doing, unfortunately, is not to present the different theories around but vandalise Wikipedia to push your version as the only version. Please stop immediately! JdeJ (talk) 09:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Do you notice the same thing as I? According to Janhunen sounds very silly in a top level country article in a brief history section? --Pudeo⺮ 10:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Actually, no. I think it's the most honest way to do it, to show that this is just one view. If you don't agree, well, I have no problem with that and can even removed those three words, but the answer is definitely not to remove the whole section. I don't know if you read the article, but this is not just Janhunen's view, he merely states what researchers currently believe. JdeJ (talk) 10:21, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate your efforts, but I can't agree with you in this. Hopefully someone else will notice the discussion at the talk page and comment. --Pudeo⺮ 10:51, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] about block

do you want to punish me? just because you are one of the nationalist finnish friend of wikinist? yeah, smells not good--Orkh (talk) 16:37, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Finnish War

This year marks the 200th anniversary on the Finnish War, which we are trying to show here on enwiki. I have recently begun translating the Finnish language wikipedia article into English in order to improve the enwiki article. Would you happen to be interested in helping out in the translation of the article? Otherwise I'll do it myself. It will just take longer. --MoRsE (talk) 00:23, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm bit busy right now (enough things with other "projects"). Perhaps on weekend. That is, if I'm motivated enough, as it looks like a lengthy project.. --Pudeo⺮ 00:38, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Stalking me again?

Funny how you always seem to come to pages you have never edited before immediately after I've visited them. Pure coincidence, I'm sure. And equally funny how you can overrule a consensus that everybody else agrees on. Be prepared for a report considering WP:STALK JdeJ (talk) 13:56, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Well in fact I was editing Grand Duchy of Finland, of which Diet of Porvoo is quite important aspect. Noticed the move. Anyway, read Wikipedia:Requested moves. "Requesting potentially controversial moves", I think it can be classified as potentially controversial. For example, I've put up such request on almost every move I've proposed. By the way, stalking again? --Pudeo⺮ 14:00, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Had there been any controversy about it, I wouldn't have moved it. Every used on the talk page agreed, so there was a consensus about it. Sure, only three users but it's not a topic attracting much attention. So the move was entirely uncontroversial, in contrast to your reversion. Discussing it at the talk page before deciding that you yourself are better able to judge than three other users would have been a more responsible approach. JdeJ (talk) 14:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] Max Payne

Thanks for making the article Max Payne (film)! I've been wanting to get around to it since I knew filming had begun. Glad to see someone else took initiative! By the way, you do not have to worry about adding Category:Upcoming films to these articles; {{Future film}} automatically includes this category. Cheers! :) —Erik (talk • contrib) - 13:37, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, there's not that much information available now but hopefully others will improve it (as usually the first step is the hardest it was good to create it now :). I didn't know that about the template, good to know then to not add duplicates. --Pudeo⺮ 13:42, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I collected a few headlines about the film-in-development some time ago; go to User:Erik/Future articles/M. Feel free to implement details from these headlines! —Erik (talk • contrib) - 14:18, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Diacritics

Hi Pudeo!

We need your help regarding diacritics:

take look here [4] [5] [6]

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