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[edit] MAOIs

Where does this figure for "roughly double" come from? I think this should be worded differently to try to prevent people from making their mushrooms twice as powerful by combining it with an MAOI, which as far as I know could have other potential problems as well

88.6.8.79 (talk) 15:21, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] High Doses, Overwhelming

In what way does this sensate repletion occur? Sources, citations, any descriptions at all?

[edit] Miscellaneous Contentions

What about Liberty cap (Psilocybe semilanceata)? The entire Psilocybe is btw known for it's effects. // Liftarn

Yes, there are many more mushrooms that are known as magic mushrooms. As Liftarn says, there is the Liberty cap and indeed all (or at least most) of the 186 known Psilocybes. In addition there are the other genus as gymnopilus, inocybe and panaeolus. At least the most common and their common names (like Philosophers Stone) should be mentioned on the Magic Mushrooms page.

"Psilocin, psilocybin, and psilocin were all phosphoric acid esters..."? --Suitov

DMT and serotonin in psilocybe cubensis? Never heard that anywhere here, so I'll remove it. In addition to psilocybin and psilocin, there's also baeocystin however.

There is much in this article that is too general and really belongs in the articles "Psilocybe" and "Psilocybin". This article should specifically concern information specific about Psilocybe cubensis. - Peter Werner, May 22, 2005.

[edit] Safety / Mushroom Identification

Should there be some kind of mention along the lines of "Many mushrooms are poisonous and the above information is not sufficient to identify mushrooms in the wild," lest some kid think he knows what magic mushrooms looks like and ends up eating something poisonous?

IMHO there should definately be a safety page. Check galerina.

[edit] Picture

The picture of P. Cubensis is rather unrealisticly large. Maybe we should find a smaller one.

There is no scale on the picture, how can you tell? Onco p53 04:33, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure I saw that picture on a website selling grow kits a while ago, as an example of an unusually large mushroom. Unfortunatly, I can't find it now, so I guess I can't prove it.
I think its a wonderful picture. perhaps not the most anatomically accurate, but perhaps more accurate in other ways . . . --Heah 08:56, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Maybe a photo of cubensis dried and ready for consumption would be useful.

I dont like the picture. While the mushroom itself is clear and illustrates what it should, the setting is sterile and clinical. Perhaps it is because I am a naturalist, but I'd much prefer a picture of it in a more natural settting. Anyone? Jens Nielsen 22:42, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Safety / Mushroom Identification

This entry focuses on the spesific genius: Psilocybe cubensis. Therefore I don't think identification advice would be as necessary as for a broader subject such as "Magic Mushrooms".

Well, IMHO identification advice would be fine. It doesn't really need to focus on how to identify them because this article is about them, so if it's about them why hold back information directly relating to identifying there species? I also don't think people should hold back information on doses and such simply because this mushroom is mostly known because of it's psychedelic properties, and it IS a hallucinogenic tryptamine. It is also under the category Psychedelics, dissociatives and deliriants. - Xer0X 22:00, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bye bye pic

So we've lost our main picture for this article it appears. Does anyone have a public domain substitute? are these p. cubensis? Kit 17:55, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

hmm that's too bad. hard to tell from the pic. i'll see if erowid has any public domain pics we can use. --Heah talk 18:05, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

AFAIS the mushrooms on the picture are very similar to Liberty Cap. Actually they look like North-West Russian variety (e.g. Saint Petersburg and nearby). --Xrgtn 12:19, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
I thought Semilanceata was not doable outside nature. The mushrooms in the pic seem so clinical that i'd guess they were grown indoors. Correct me if i'm wrong.--82.181.230.17 (talk) 16:04, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Psilocybe semilanceata can be grown indoors, but like all grass loving Psilocybes it is difficult to make it fruit. I don't think the mushrooms in the picture are Semilanceata. They look more like a woodlover, perhaps P. azurescens. Alan Rockefeller (Talk - contribs) 22:57, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dosage Accuracy?

The article presently states: "For most people, 3.5 dried grams (1/8 oz) would be considered a high dose and likely to produce a very intense experience." In my opinion, and others whom I have asked, 1/8 oz is considered an average dose, not a high dose, and to describe this quantity as "very intense" seems a bit of an exaggeration. May I ask the editing community what it thinks about this issue? —This unsigned comment was added by Wowbobwow12 (talk • contribs) .

Well, wikipedia has to work on we can cite/verify, not what us or our friends think . . . although regardless i would be inclined to agree with what the article already says. perhaps "very intense" is an exageration; however, it should probably be qualified with something like "may be" very intense, rather than removed . . . everyone reacts differently . . . and some mushrooms are stronger than others. I would call one eighth "moderate" but not "average" . . . it all depends . . .
My feelings aside- As for the citations: Erowid is a much maligned but quick source. they call 2.5-5 grams "strong", as opposed to "heavy", which is the above 5 gram range[1]. and in this instance, they have cited their own sources at the bottom of the page, so it's usable.
So perhaps it should be modified, yes, but it should be maintained that one eighth can engender a quite overwhelming experience, depending on circumstance . . .
--He:ah? 06:43, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Beryllium Ore

The article states the following with regard to Psilocybe mushrooms: "in texture they are similar in appearance to Beryllium Ore". Having visited the beryllium entry and looked at the picture of beryllium ore, I am left wondering about the above statement. Does it really look like beryllium ore? Does it look enough like it to include the comparison? Is there some precedent for comparing the two? Wowbobwow12 15:20, 5 June 2006

Beryllium ore

[edit] Lacandón god pots

Although I have found information pertaining to god pots, I have been unable to find any link between god pots and P. cubensis use. Can anyone provide a citation? Wowbobwow12 01:20, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spore Legality

I have attempted, by means of Erowid, to make the spore legality part of the article correct. For some reason the article said that Ohio, not Idaho, was a state in which psilocybin spores are illegal. I just corrected the acticle according to Erowid's mushroom law page, however, if anyone else has information that is different, please feel free to help me out. Wowbobwow12 00:01, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Psilocybin mushroom use in Mexico

I have removed the Mesoamerican use paragraph since the section is not specifically about P. cubensis mushrooms, but rather psilocybin mushrooms in general. I believe this information would be better suited to the Psychedelic mushroom article, if it is not already included therein. Wowbobwow12 18:02, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reverting recent edits

I have reverted most of the recent edits on the grounds that they were either POV, repetitive or belonged in the Psychedelic mushrooms article. Wowbobwow12 19:17, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Repetitive and unnecesary information

I've deleted some of the sentences that describe the mushroom since those characteristics are included in the Mycobox. Any objections? Wowbobwow12 01:42, 6 February 2007 (UTC)