Template talk:Prophets in the Qur'an

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[edit] Biblical Names

I think there's no need to include names in Bible since it's not a christian encyclopedia --Mido 04:41, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I think that the links aren't necessary to the biblical names of the prophets but it helps if the names are included. --a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 17:34, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

I have removed the links to the biblical names, but have kept them in the template. I believe that they will be help for those learning about the Prophets of Islam. I have also created a few new articles specifically pertaining to the Islamic prophets (like Ibrahim). I got a complaint on the Abraham article about the template (in the edit summary) since Abraham is not just a prophet in Islam. I didn't think the rationale for removing the template was reasonable, but the section on Ibrahim in Islam was getting too long anyway. Feel free to help out on the Prophets of Islam page; I think it's pretty obvious what I'm doing. I'm doing section editing, one prophet at a time so others can easily help out. I'll usually delete the index of verses for the prophet I'm working on. joturner 23:21, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Good. This is a very nice template. --a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 00:35, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I added the links back to the English names of the prophets. This is not a Christian encyclopedia, I am not a Christian, but this is an English encyclopedia. Because English has been impacted by Christianity so much, the English names of the prophets are the Christian names for the prophets. Since Islam considers the prophets to be the same people regardless of name, I don't see how this matters at all.--metta, The Sunborn 14:45, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

It should be considered as harmless as it would be to have Greek and Roman names on a template for information's sake. That isn't done, but both have near equal recognition in the English speaking world. Perhaps the Biblical names should be in italics though. William Quill 11:21, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Isn't Muhammad called, "Muhammad" in English?--Steven X 12:09, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I have removed Paraclete as being the biblical name for Muhhamed because (unlike all other names) there is no agreement between Christianity and Islam that the Paraclete refers to the same entity (let a lone a person) just to make my point clear : both Christianity and Islam agree that Jesus and Isa are the same person while they differ greatly on their respective views of that person. but in the case of the Paraclete Christianity and Islam interpret it to completely different meanings. Sherefyounan 19:46, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Kishkushim 23:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)Excuse me, but it would make a lot of sense to add the Hebrew names to your template. After all, the "Christian names" that your refer to are derivatives of Hebrew names from the bible. If there is an interest in including the Hebrew names, I would be glad to provide them.

Don't remove Paraclete. I put it back!--Angel David 21:29, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

I came across this template while trying to understand the concept of prophecy in Islam for some minor expansion at Religious persecution. (You probably know, there is this issue about it with the Bahá'í Faith.) If you want an outside opinion, it would say that 'Paraclete' should be removed. Zara1709 (talk) 12:01, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Size

This is a good looking template, but it is large for some pages. I wonder if a second, compact version could be used for pages where this one might look too big. Or maybe one with a vertical format would be useful. These would be in addition, not instead of. Thoughts? Tom Harrison ^Talk 14:28, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I think it might be a little difficult to condense this. And, in my opinion, vertical look more intrusive. joturner 22:52, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I made a smaller version

{{User:Java7837/small}}

--Java7837 02:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ezra/Uzair

should he be included in as he is considered as prophet by Muslim scholars? more here:

1. Encyclopaedia of Holy Prophet and Companions By Ashraf, Shahid, p199
2. Stories Of The Quran, Ibn Kathir

~atif ^Talk 07:40, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Encyclopaedia of Holy Prophet and Companions By Ashraf, Shahid, p19 The New Encyclopedia of Islam By Cyril Glasse, page 364] [[1]] Seth also should be added--Java7837 13:07, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Encyclopaedia of Holy Prophet and Companions By Ashraf, Shahid, p179]

Samuel should be added

Encyclopaedia of Holy Prophet and Companions By Ashraf, Shahid, p173]

Joshua, son of Nun should be added

--Java7837 13:14, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

should muslims also consider luqman to have been a prophet see [[2]] --Java7837 13:24, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Manichaeism has many similar prophets such as Jesus (Prophet in Christianity), Seth (considered prophet by many Gnostic religions but not Judaism nor Christianity), Noah (Is not called a prophet in the Old Testament), Abraham (Prophet in Judaism and Christianity), Enoch (Is not called a prophet in the Old Testament), etc. also [[3]] says they also considered Adam a prophet (He is never called a prophet in the Old Testament) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Java7837 (talk • contribs) 13:54, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Differences are Shem, Nikotheos, Zoroaster (considered prophet by some muslim scholars), Hermes, Plato, Buddha (considered prophet by some muslim scholars)

see Mani (prophet) and Manichaeism

Mandaeism also has many similar prophets

Adam (Prophet in Islam but is not a prophet in Judaism nor Christianity), Abel, (Not a prophet in Islam) Seth, (Is a prophet in Islam but not Christianity nor Judaism many Gnostic religions consider him a prophet) Enosh, (Not a prophet in Islam) Noah, (Prophet in Islam but not called a prophet in the Old Testament) Shem, (Not a prophet in Islam) Aram, (Not a prophet in Islam) and especially John the Baptist (Prophet in Christianity) --Java7837 13:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)