Talk:Provinces of the Philippines

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1 Filipino words
2 Capitalization and hyphenation
3 To do
4 FLCfailed
5 Ambiguous Provincial Names
6 Move new provinces in Lead?
7 Fair use rationale for Image:Ph seal laguna.png
8 Fair use rationale for Image:Ph seal rizal.png
9 Fair use rationale for Image:Ph seal cavite.png
10 Fair use rationale for Image:Ph seal cebu.png
11 Fair use rationale for Image:Ph seal romblon.png

[edit] Filipino words

Per Wikipedia convention (more specifically the English Wikipedia), Filipino words should not be interspersed in the article except when absolutely necessary for explanation of specific issues. Wikipedia is not for language learning. Per that convention, Filipino words appended to English titles in the article are removed. --Gerald Farinas (talk) 20:33, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalization and hyphenation

Is it "A province is administered by a governor" or "A province is administered by a Governor"? I think that unless it is used as a title (i.e., Governor Juan de la Cruz), it should be in small letters.
Also, the correct form is hyphenated for "vice-governor", right?

—seav 06:31 19 Jun 2003 (UTC)

That's my understanding.
The original form in England has been hyphenatd, but the American form -- considered very correct by Americans -- is not. I don't know the tradition of English in the Philippines, but if what you learned at school officially is more British-like, hyphenate it.

--Menchi 06:43 19 Jun 2003 (UTC)

English in the Philippines is almost exclusively American in form (the Philippines having been under American rule for almost 50 years). That's why I find it strange since, personally, I consider the hyphenated form to be correct. Anyway, I've researched some more and I find out that the form used in the Local Government Code of the Philippines (1991), Book III is the hyphenated one. —seav 07:29 19 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Because "vice-governor" is not listed in most dictionaries, I compared "vice-president" of American and British dictionaries when I answered you. But now when I inspect more closely, the American dictionary (Merriam-Wesbter) also has some hyphenated words, usually more uncommon ones: vice-chancellor, vice-consul, vice-regent. And even have no space for one very anicent word, "viceroy". OED hyphens all, except the likes of "viceroy".

I googled some Filipino websites and found some newspapers don't hyphenates and some universities do. And a government webpage that doesn't. Since this particular spelling isn't formalized, I suppose you're free to choose your own!

And apparently, Canadian online newspaper, even within the large Globe and Mail, the use is erratic too, but usually hyphenated. --Menchi 08:31 19 Jun 2003 (UTC)

[edit] To do

Some questions are unanswered:

What is the role of the provincial capital? There are some provinces where the seat of government is located somewhere other than the capital.
How does Metro Manila work if it's not divided into provinces and has no governor?
How about those chartered cities that act independently of provinces? The article doesn't mention them.
History of the provinces... When were they drawn up, and how did they get to their current status?
How is it determined what region they belong to? And what difference does it make?

TheCoffee 4 July 2005 07:55 (UTC)

Hmmm, though questions. For the fifth, the President under the 1987 constitution has general administration over the local government units. See the preamble of Arroyo's E.O. 36:

WHEREAS, Article X, Section 4 of the Constitution provides that the President shall exercise general supervision over local governments;

WHEREAS, the administrative regions were established to promote efficiency in the Government accelerate social and economic development and improve public services;

But regions, when they were first introduced (mid 1900s I think) were traditionally aligned to ethnolinguistic groups, 12 in all: I - Ilocano, IV -Tagalog, V - Bicolano, VI - Ilonggo, VII - Cebuano, VIII - Waray, etc. Then NCR was formed, then CAR and ARMM, etc.

--seav 4 July 2005 16:15 (UTC)

[edit] FLCfailed

Just a note to say that this article failed to make it as a featured list mostly for failing to show references under a clear reference section. Please see the link above to the discussion of its candidacy. Not too much work is needed to make this featured, jguk 09:20, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ambiguous Provincial Names

Hi Filipinos and everybody else who is her

[edit] Move new provinces in Lead?

I think we should move the "On xxx, yyy was declared a province by..." to a "Recent changes/additions" section instead of having them in the lead section of the list. Shrumster 09:06, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Ph seal laguna.png

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Ph seal rizal.png

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Ph seal cavite.png

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Ph seal cebu.png

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Ph seal romblon.png

Image:Ph seal romblon.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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