Talk:Proteinogenic amino acid
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[edit] Combining
Shouldn't Proteinogenic amino acid and List of standard amino acids be combined & maybe renamed Standard amino acids. Gregogil 20:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- I don't see why not, but Standard amino acid might be preferable given the convention of singular article names. I've added the merge tags to both articles now.--Eloil 03:15, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
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- Yes merge. --Sadi Carnot 05:04, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
There's something to be said for keeping this shorter page for the discussion of what constitutes a standard/nonstandard amino acid, and leaving the list for just talking about the qualities of the 20 standard amino acids. Then, this page could expand out and link to pyrrolysine, selenocysteine, hydroxyproline, and the other weird cases that you don't want to confuse the average reader with, but that need to be talked about as a category. Currently, there isn't a "nonstandard amino acids" page as a clearinghouse for the exceptions. Reesei 19:20, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with Reesei for the same reasons. Let's not forget the non-standard proteinogenic amino acids. Antorjal 19:49, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree in principle with the original proposal to merge the pages but I would call the resulting page Proteinogenic amino acid since this term has an implied meaning, whereas its somewhat arbitrary what is "standard", even though the term is widely used (e.g. IUPAC doesn't actually define them as "standard" AFAIK, but on Google: "standard amino acids" 116,000 vs. "proteinogenic amino acids" 33,000 hits). Subsections could then summarize the distinctions between encoded (the 20), implied (RNA signal → SeCYS) and posttranslational incorporation. Article redirects elsewhere could make this the standard aggregator page for the synonymous concepts; the very useful Lists would get a section under properties; and the specialized information can branch from here. One advantage is that the page would be very generally useful for crossreferencing amino acid information from other pages. (E.g. the Catalytic triad article might link to this page as a source of data for pKa of serine, etc.) --Boris 02:19, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
YEAAA FIX IT UP DAWG ITS ALL MESSED UP —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.7.175.136 (talk) 22:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
