Talk:Prostitution in Nevada

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[edit] Untrue statement: Nevada is unique among the U.S. states in that it allows some legal prostitution

Indoor prostitution is legal in Rhode Island. Source: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9818829 Baudot 07:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

I just reinserted a couple of statements that had been deleted from the article:

  • the claim that illegal prostitution and living off the proceeds of prostitutes is quite common in Nevada, despite laws against it. Illegal prostitution is of course rampant in Las Vegas, and living off the proceeds of brothel prostitutes is amply documented in Albert's book.
  • brothel prostitutes don't use condoms in their private lifes: is mentioned in the condom study as well as in Albert's book.
  • the claim that prostitutes usually don't pay the required taxes on their earnings: mentioned in Albert's book.
  • the complaint that the tight control of brothel ownders preclude the women from legally being classified as independent contractors is also contained in Albert's book, and is a standard one made against strip clubs as well.
  • I don't think that "particularly colorful" in describing John Reese is out of line: he staged his own kidnapping and applied for permission to run a gay brothel.

AxelBoldt 23:40, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Well then, should we had a mention of rhode island in the article ? When I read this :"Nevada is one of only two U.S. states that allows some legal prostitution;", I wondered what was the other state.
Could be in the introduction, or the "see also" section.
what do you think ?
FiP Как вы думаете? 19:16, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Untrue statement: 'As of January 2005, Clark County (which contains Las Vegas) is the only county in Nevada with a population of over 400,000,'

The poplulation of Clark County, Nevada exceeded 400,000 people in the year 1978. Source: http://cber.unlv.edu/pop.html tickettack 11:23, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I removed the following material about "male prostitution" from the article. It doesn't seem to be related to Nevada, and contains much speculation without backup ("most people greet the idea with skepticism", "largely biologically driven" etc.). Maybe some of this material can be used on the general prostitution article.

Such an establishment would be the first one seen in modern Western history, at least in North America. Most people greet the idea with skepticism. Most customers of prostitutes historically have been male, and this applies to both heterosexual and homosexual prostitution business. Since male-female human sexual behavior is largely biologically driven, and human females forcus more on security issues during sex, it is unclear how such an establishment would find enough customers to pay for business overhead.
Male prostitutes serving female customers have always existed, but have generally operated as individuals, and generally only close to big cities. They have never been known to operate as a group with female customers coming to a central location, as there are just not enough customers in such a structured operation.
It is possible that male prostitutes may be employed there as a sideline but they would likely not have many customers and would need to have some other source of income, or some other job, to pay their bills. They would thus not be purely dedicated male prostitutes servicing female clientele. In addition, Nevada brothels are generally in very remote areas, and women who do not reside in these areas rarely travel in such areas without males with them. This means that male sex workers would need to commute from some other place for a second job. These socio/economic realities also mean that there would be very few male prostitutes at any one time at such an establishment, as a male prostitute would need at least two customers per day to earn a living.

AxelBoldt 05:56, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Having worked at a resort, and heard about others, the situation regarding prostitution in Las Vegas varies from hotel to hotel. Where I worked, security didn't care about incall prostitutes. They went to the client's room, then left. They did have a policy about not allowing prostitutes to remain on the premises. Those would be taken in by security, given a trespass warning, then turned loose. The message was clear - they could ply their trade at the hotel, but only on an incall basis. Other hotels tolerate the presence of prostitutes at certain bars (usually near the high rollers). They can't hustle players at tables, but are readily available once a player is not gambling. Legally, prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas, but it's rampant.

[edit] AIDS Test for Prostitutes

Does regulation includes testing prostitutes for sexually transmitted diseases?Patchouli 21:18, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

I had missed the answer to my question while skimming the article; so, yes.Patchouli 21:21, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Legal Situation

In the article it states "As of July 2004, brothels are illegal in Carson City", This cannot be accurate because the Moonlite Bunny Ranch lists its address as Carson City (See here). Can someone cite a legal reference to the exact nature of the legality of brothels in areas such as Carson City etc. Misterrick 17:29, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

It's indeed illegal in Carson City; the Moonlite BunnyRanch is close to Carson City, but belongs to Mound House. AxelBoldt 01:54, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
And Mound House is not in the City and County of Carson City, but rather in Lyon County, where brothel prostitution is legal. Its, nonetheless, close enough to Carson City to list that city as a postal address. Iamcuriousblue 04:10, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Problem with map of counties

The map included in this article showing which counties allow for legal prostitution appears to be incorrect. The map shows Clark County as a "legal" zone, which it most certainly isn't. Should we change this?

(I'd forgotten to sign in before making this post) Fuzzzone

I removed the map. Its incorrect. --Eqdoktor 07:51, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Over 400k is unclear

Under Nevada state law, any county with a population of fewer than 400,000 is allowed to license brothels if it so chooses (NRS 244.345). As of January 1978,[1] Clark County (which contains Las Vegas) is the only county in Nevada with a population of over 400,000, but Washoe County may soon reach that point as well.[2] Incorporated towns and cities in counties that allow prostitution may regulate the trade further or prohibit it altogether.

The article is somewhat unclear. Does it mean to say that counties with a population 400k or greater cannot license brothels, i.e. they're always illegal? Nil Einne 12:56, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind the history section clarifies it so I made the legal situation more explicit... Nil Einne 13:00, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Clairification: The state law specifically mandates that any count with a population of 400,000 people may, by local option vote approve legal brothels in that county. At this time those counties include Storey County, Lyon County, Elko County, Esmeralda County, Nye County, White Pine County and Churchill County (although Churchill County does not currently have any actively running brothels at this time, it is still a legal option.) Reference: Nevada Brothel Times.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.60.73.84 (talk) 09:23, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Washoe county

Since Washoe only recently made 400k, how has this affected brothels (if any) in it? Have they already moved out? Are they up shit creek? Have there been calls to adjust the limit to say 1.8 million thereby still protecting Clark County while leaving Washoe alone for a long while longer (perhaps they're waiting for 2 million making a big nice round number? :-P) Nil Einne 12:40, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I'll shortly be correcting this section of the main article -- in terms of Nevada law, "population" is defined to mean the population as of the last decennial census (NRS 0.050). Current population is irrelevant -- as of the last census, only Clark County has a population over 400,000, so only Clark County is barred by statute (NRS 244.345(8)) from permitting brothels. No matter how much Washoe County has grown, it will be unaffected by this statute until the next census (at which point the legislature may change the population cutoffs). Ashdog137 (talk) 17:24, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Link Spam

We've had back and forth edit reverts from a certain user "Lasvegasredlight" advertising a web site, "Lasvegasredlight.com". Although the latest incarnation claimed to be a "Nevada Legal Referral Service", what the web site actually appears to be advertising is an "escort service", which, as the article explains, would be illegal, especially in Las Vegas. Linkspammers beware: you're not welcome here, this is the wrong place to advertise your business. SONORAMA (talk) 09:59, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

The legal status of the business or lack thereof is irrelevant – linkspam is against Wikipedia policy regardless. User:Lasvegasredlight – if you continue to do this, you WILL be blocked. Iamcuriousblue (talk) 00:27, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
I placed a {{NoMoreLinks}} on the article. If it happens again the site will be blacklisted. MER-C 08:55, 2 April 2008 (UTC)