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[edit] Promise Ring in Bahá'í Culture
I removed
- In American Bahá'í culture, a promise ring may be given to a prospective engagement partner prior to the required consent of both individuals' parents. At that point, this ring can then be considered an engagement ring or can be replaced by another ring for that purpose.
because it is untrue. In the Bahá'í Faith once a couple knows that they want to get married, (i.e. promise to each other) they have to immediatly go to their parents for consent, and only once they get consent can they claim to be promised or engaged. Secondly, as a Bahá'í I have never seen any other Bahá'ís who have had promised rings. -- Jeff3000 15:39, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Copyrighted material removed
All material submitted by 68.231.211.63 seems to be taken from http://www.newsletter.kaijewels.com/meaning-promise-ring-kj-01.htm. I reverted to the most recent original version. Correct me if I'm wrong (and give advice; relatively new editor)!
[edit] Not just for the very young
A graduate student in my early twenties, I have never heard of anyone coveting their sweetheart's class ring or leather jacket. The phrase 'going steady' is not used by my generation. In my experience, promise rings are exchanged by couples who have serious plans for their relationship but who are not in a position to get engaged and start planning a wedding (because of commitments to school, military obligations, or simple lack of money). The whole article has a condescending tone to it, like the exchange of promise rings is nothing more than a "cute" high school trend. I would like to re-write much of the article with what I feel is a more modern interpretation, but I would like to hear what other people have to say first. Any thoughts?
Go for it. I totally agree. Pumpkingrrl 03:21, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
I totally agree - please rewrite it. No one exchanges class rings, letter jackets, or uses that terminology anymore.
I also agree with you. I would love to read your interpertation of this article. (ULL)
I have never seen very young (younger than 17) couples exchange promise rings. I would love to see this article re-written. I also do not feel that letterman's jackets are relevant to this entry as they signify "going steady" and promise rings generally signify a more serious relationship. -Aug. 3/06
As of right now, I am 27 years old and last night my boyfriend gave me a promise ring as his gift to me for our 7 year anniversary. We have been living together for 3 years and have discussed marriage. We do plan to marry in the future but financial reasons prevent us from doing so at this time. He did not know he was buying a "promise ring" until he looked at the receipt. He has no clue what it means to be giving me a promise ring, but I explained and his reaction was "I didn't know there was a ring before the engagement". He was only buying it because it was a diamond and he could afford it. I don't think most people buy them as a "promise ring", I think alot of people buy them because it's what they can afford. - 10/29/06
I am 48 y/o man and just a gave a promise ring to my girlfriend. It to us has the meaning that we intend to get engaged and maried. She was suprised to hear the term when I gave it to her, but knew exactly what it means. We plan on getting married/engaged. It is a sign that our relationship is very srious and that we are dedicated to each other. We do not view it as an engagement ring, although it could be used as one. It is not a strictly American cultural phenomena. I lived in Germany for five years and saw the same identity give to these rings. Letterman Jackets and class rings are still given in the U.S., but it is less common.
I think you should definately re write the article, because I confused my understanding of the promise ring with this 1950s version. I have a friend that recieved a promise ring because she and her boyfriend plan to get engaged, but they don't want to make the financial commitment until he gets a better job.
- If it is true that "no one" uses class rings as promise rings, that should be cited, and the use of class rings as promise rings should be part of the article as part of the history of promise rings. Letterman's jackets would have no place in the article as they are obviously not rings of any sort. Class rings are still sometimes exchanged between couples (typically when still in school), and even if they are not exchanged with of signifying an intent of becoming engaged at a future date, they still qualify as promise rings as defined by this article.--RLent (talk) 22:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
I think you should re write but for a different reason than most said. everyone seems to think a promise ring means that you have an intention to be engaged when a promise ring can simply mean i love you and i want to be with you and no one else. kind of like saying i promise to only see you or i promise to be faithful. My boyfriend told me he was going to get me one and asked me if i wanted a promise ring or an engagement ring and i told him i am not ready for that type of commitment that if he was to get me a ring i wouldnt except an engagement ring cause even tho i love him im not ready to decide if i want to live the rest of my life with him or not. So to me a promise ring is just simply a symbol of his love which is why i not sure which finger i am supposed to wear it on. i dont people to see it an think i plan to marry him or get engaged to him but i dont plan on ending the relationship either. i guess you could say im still learning and discovering things about him so i really know who he is before i decide if he is the one for me or not. (Krazykicker (talk) 03:33, 5 March 2008 (UTC))
[edit] gender
The article makes it sound like high school guys are wearing their girlfriends' letterman jackets and class rings. I don't think that normally happens.
Agreed. The tradition of guys giving girls their class rings has been around for quite some time. It may even be more common now that high schoolers are getting their class rings earlier on in their high school careers. 67.34.32.247 04:17, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I don't know anyone, of either sex, who wore their significant other's class ring or letter jacket. I graduated from a large American public high school in New York in 1998.
- Maybe it is no longer common in New York, but it is not uncommon in other parts of the country. Class rings are sometimes used as promise rings.--RLent (talk) 00:51, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed. =David(talk)(contribs) 17:43, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] US
I don't know if this os a widespread thing. In the UK I haven't really known of it, it mainly seems to appear in US references, so maybe add that it's not a usual thing in all places, but maybe mainly the US.
No, it's not common in the US either. This is a "hallmark" tradition.
Agreed, anyone know of any sources to cite so the article can mention how this is pretty much the jewelry equivalent of Sweetest Day?
I know numerous people that Have given their girlfriends promise rings because they can't necessarily get engaged (although they want to). This can be because of financial reasons, distance, or whatever. Obviously, you can get engaged and not live with each other, (EG someones in lawschool for 3 years, you probably don't want to be engaged for 3 years and planning a wedding during schooling could be hectic). From what I see, its an optional significant step prior to engagement.
I can provide a picture of what one may look like. ~dan --24.46.185.7 15:09, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Promised In 1977
I believe this is a practice in the southern United States, or at least it was in 1977. I was promised at the age of 18 to the girl that would later become my wife. Many other couples I knew were also promised and were later married. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.39.161.29 (talk) 14:05, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
